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Russia's Su-30 fighter to become world’s most exported jet
pravda.ru ^ | 13.07.2009

Posted on 07/13/2009 11:52:27 AM PDT by pobeda1945

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1 posted on 07/13/2009 11:52:30 AM PDT by pobeda1945
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To: pobeda1945

Not to worry. Our socialist government will most likely loan the money to other countries so they can buy them. Loan your tax money for planes that are capable of shooting down our own pilots.


2 posted on 07/13/2009 11:57:54 AM PDT by RC2
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To: pobeda1945
I was waiting for an excuse to post this photo of an F18 flying by a Detroit apartment house.
3 posted on 07/13/2009 12:01:32 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: pobeda1945

That’s great but has our F-35 even gotten off the runway yet?


4 posted on 07/13/2009 12:01:37 PM PDT by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: RC2
>Loan your tax money for planes that are capable of shooting down our own pilots

If the US has
particle beam weaponry
planes of any kind

are just flying scrap.
And it is tempting to think
Russia has beams, too:

A Ukrainian politician who had tried to revive an ancient pagan cult was killed by lightning ...
5 posted on 07/13/2009 12:05:32 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: rjp2005
That’s great but has our F-35 even gotten off the runway yet?

I could be wrong, but it appears to be airborne


6 posted on 07/13/2009 12:06:24 PM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: aculeus

I was hoping someone had a shot of that....THANKS!!!!


7 posted on 07/13/2009 12:06:40 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Brevity: Saying a lot, while saying very little.)
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To: pobeda1945

Really?

I wonder how the F-16 stacks up?
Over 4,400 built (and counting) sold to over 25 air forces around the world.


8 posted on 07/13/2009 12:15:10 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: aculeus
I was waiting for an excuse to post this photo of an F18 flying by a Detroit apartment house.

I have a problem with this photo, I smell Adobe at work. Interesting but too many logical improbabilities.

9 posted on 07/13/2009 12:18:48 PM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: pobeda1945

Raptor bait.


10 posted on 07/13/2009 12:20:57 PM PDT by B-Chan
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To: SES1066

It looks fake due to long (telephoto) lens depth compression effect. Photoshop not required.


11 posted on 07/13/2009 12:22:04 PM PDT by B-Chan
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“A computer modeling of an air fight between USA’s F-35 and Russia’s Su-30, which was conducted last year in Australia, showed that the state-of-the-art American fighter took advantage of the Russian jet in four of ten cases. US officials originally said that their plane would prove to be entirely predominant.”

Hmm, a computer modeling no doubt based on hyped stats for the SU-30? Still, 4 out of 10 means the SU won 6 out of 10, right? Not good...


12 posted on 07/13/2009 12:32:59 PM PDT by piytar (Take back the language: Obama axing Chrystler dealers based on political donations is REAL fascism!)
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To: pobeda1945

The US has a few already....


13 posted on 07/13/2009 12:36:09 PM PDT by cranked
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Ping.
14 posted on 07/13/2009 12:54:15 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: aculeus

Do you really need an excuse? I think you’d be forgiven for giving that it’s own thread. ;-)


15 posted on 07/13/2009 12:55:14 PM PDT by BJClinton (One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: B-Chan
It looks fake due to long (telephoto) lens depth compression effect. Photoshop not required.

OK, I found the photo as from AP/UK DailyMail and obviously to be taken as genuine barring any other reasons. This quote answers one of my suspicions; "Officials waived rules to allow the Navy flyers to swoop under 100ft along the waterway.

This is probably an FA-18E(Super Hornet) and these have a wingspan of 45 feet. Given the individual standing on the balcony, I think that the floors are no more than 11 feet and MAYBE less and since the plane covers 3 floors - IT WAS RIGHT THERE!! I, off-hand would say that the photo was taken from about 6-700 feet away from the apartment house and the plane was about 2-300 feet further - WOWWOWWOW - why weren't more people watching in the picture?

16 posted on 07/13/2009 12:59:34 PM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: pobeda1945
A few test beds, maybe a wing somewhere but the F35 is still in development. In all comparisons I've seen, the F22 waxes the F35 - from range to armament, to speed and survivability. People confuse air superiority airframes with fighter bombers. You cannot substitute one for the other; the F35 does not replace current air superiority fighters.

We nee both, and in quantity. The SU flankers are going to be in everyone's air force soon. F15-F18s are not going to be survivable - see the June 8, 2009 Air Power Australia assessment - only F22s will survive future conflicts, but only if procured in original quantities...

17 posted on 07/13/2009 1:06:01 PM PDT by PIF
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To: piytar
Still, 4 out of 10 means the SU won 6 out of 10, right? Not good...

Still, one of the keys is that even the best airframe is only as good as its pilot. If our military has learned anything, it is that there is NO SUBSTITUTE for practice and while sim training is good, air hours are golden. I'll take an experienced US / Brit / Israeli in an F-16 so long as it isn't an ambush or trans-horizon missile.

I remember that Eastwood movie about the super Soviet fighter that he stole. What got my goat after laughing at the story line is that they had the weapons on mental command while the pilot flew the aircraft. I would have reversed the two and kept my forebrain skills for the fighting.

18 posted on 07/13/2009 1:11:09 PM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: SES1066

They were probably hiding from the godawful, apocalyptic noise. That’s what my instinct would have been.


19 posted on 07/13/2009 1:22:34 PM PDT by B-Chan
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To: pobeda1945

This is from Pravda.

Just saying.


20 posted on 07/13/2009 1:36:08 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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