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Obama threatens veto if defense bill funds F-22s
The Hill ^ | July 23. 2009 | Roxana Tiron

Posted on 07/13/2009 11:28:21 AM PDT by jazusamo

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To: americanophile

“I agree with Obama, we don’t need these expensive F-22s. The age of fighting wars through air power is over, it’s all about the battleship now.”

Heck, we can buy 1,000,000 horses with that kind of cash.


41 posted on 07/13/2009 1:53:04 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Climate change alarmists are Warm-Mongers. Now that's funny right there. I don't care who you are.)
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To: jazusamo

How will he know since he won’t actually read the bill?


42 posted on 07/13/2009 2:03:25 PM PDT by wiseprince
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To: jazusamo

Maybe the GOP can use some of the stimulus cash to buy themselves some testicles and matching spines, and call Il Douche on it. MAKE him veto the defense bill!


43 posted on 07/13/2009 2:06:35 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: panzerkampfwagen

361 Million a pop, TEN TIMES what a F16 cost 300 times what a F-105 cost.
I am not convinced we need the Rape-tor either. I would rather buy twice as many planes for less than half that.
Our Naval and Air procurement and industrial capacity is crippled.


44 posted on 07/13/2009 2:57:49 PM PDT by omega4179 (Anti Obamaphile)
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To: exit82

“This isn’t about money. It is about capping our airpower.”

I fear you are correct.

“...the United States Air Force considers the F-22 a critical component for the future of US tactical airpower, and claims that the aircraft cannot be matched by any known or projected fighter, while Lockheed Martin claims that the Raptor’s combination of stealth, speed, agility, precision and situational awareness combined with air-to-air and air-to-ground combat capabilities, makes it the best overall fighter in the world...”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-22_Raptor


45 posted on 07/13/2009 3:02:56 PM PDT by Gabrial (Obama Lied - The Republic Died)
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To: jazusamo

Make him veto it and then beat him over the head with it in 2012.


46 posted on 07/13/2009 3:16:51 PM PDT by MattinNJ (And then there was one...Palin.)
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To: grellis; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
Obama sent a letter to the leaders of the Senate Armed Services Committee vowing to veto any defense bill that funds more Lockheed Martin F-22 fighter jets... he would veto bills written by a Democratic Congress... an amendment to strip $1.75 billion for seven additional F-22s from the Pentagon policy bill... wants to cap the F-22 fleet at 187 aircraft... Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.) won narrow support for an amendment to authorize funds for more F-22s when the Armed Services Committee marked up the bill last month. Levin and McCain opposed it at the time.

47 posted on 07/13/2009 3:18:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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We can scrap all our polluting war machines and develop carbon neutral equipment and save the planet while we fight!!!
48 posted on 07/13/2009 3:56:43 PM PDT by razbinn (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,and to the republic for which it ...)
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To: Gabrial

0bama has no interest in protecting the USA.


49 posted on 07/13/2009 6:17:17 PM PDT by Boardwalk (W)
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To: panzerkampfwagen

Depends on whether or not losses of expensively trained aircrew and the loss of a battle or war matter to you.

It doesn’t matter as much to me what the best airplane costs as much as it does that its the best in class, that we have as many as possible, and that when the dogfights are over its our airplanes coming in to land.

You can’t fight a war, and win, on a budget. You spend what it takes to win always.


50 posted on 07/13/2009 6:38:09 PM PDT by rahbert ("...but Rush....but Rush...")
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To: jazusamo

Let him end the manufacturing of F-22’s. It’s time to move on up into space. Space fighters, bombers & lasers should be the goal for the next generation of air force technology.


51 posted on 07/13/2009 8:34:54 PM PDT by eaglestar
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To: panzerkampfwagen

“WHY THE HELL DO THEY COST SO MUCH? THEY COST MORE THAN THEIR WEIGHT IN GOLD!”

Because only 187 of them are being built.

It’s just like the difference in price between a Ferrari and a Ford.

The Ferrari costs $300,000 because only a hundred or so are built each year.

A Ford on the other hand costs $15,000 because several hundred are made each day.

If we bought enough F-22’s to replace the F-15’s on a 1:1 ratio then they’d probably cost about the same. Hell, even at a ratio of 1 Raptor for every 2 Eagles they’d be less than half of what they cost.

Now keep in mind that there were over 700 F-15’s built with 522 of them still in service (not including the F-15E Strike Eagle).


52 posted on 07/13/2009 11:11:13 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: libh8er

“Not battleship but spitballs.”

And a strongly worded letter.......

After he has his hamburger and ice cream.


53 posted on 07/13/2009 11:14:07 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: jazusamo

BTTT


54 posted on 07/13/2009 11:15:04 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: panzerkampfwagen

The F-22 does not cost a billion dollars per airplane.

The ME-262 has weaknesses that were easily exploited by allied aircraft such as it’s inability to increase thrust to climb out of the landing pattern if attacked.


55 posted on 07/13/2009 11:17:16 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: americanophile
Wow. Did you follow our battle into Afghanistan at all?
56 posted on 07/13/2009 11:31:13 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: omega4179

“361 Million a pop, TEN TIMES what a F16 cost 300 times what a F-105 cost.”

And there has also been at least 10 times as many F-16’s built.

“I would rather buy twice as many planes for less than half that.”

Well if they built 374 Raptors, they would cost half of what they do now.


57 posted on 07/13/2009 11:42:33 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: jazusamo
Well, we do have to pay for all those Abortions, and ACORN needs more money so they can cook the next Census, and let's not forget that Billion in Taxpayer Dollars for Hamas.

Obama, he knows how to prioritize...

This also means more money for those Stimulus Road Work Signs. Hip, Hip Hooray...

58 posted on 07/13/2009 11:45:34 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Hitler used a TelePrompter, we would all be speaking German...)
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To: omega4179
Russia and China are working on Gen 5 Fighters with Stealth Technology. We either build superior Fighters or Targets. I'll go with the Fighters instead of funding ACORN and HAMAS.

This is like when Obama said “we will not weaponize space”.
We won't, but Russia and China will. They are already buying up all the energy sources because we won't drill off our own coast or in the Arctic.

59 posted on 07/13/2009 11:54:52 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Hitler used a TelePrompter, we would all be speaking German...)
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