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Report: Bush surveillance program was massive
AP on Yahoo ^ | 7/10/09 | Pamela Hess - ap

Posted on 07/10/2009 5:12:21 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge

If it kept innocent American citizens from being murdered, I don’t care if they found out every single thing about me.


41 posted on 07/10/2009 6:30:21 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The Democrats have returned to their game of supporting totalitarian regimes. Now they're muslim.)
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To: Two Ravens

Benjamin Franklin wsnt dealing with people flying airplanes into buildings and killing 3,000 people.


42 posted on 07/10/2009 6:31:19 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: DJ MacWoW
And you are dodging. I said, I doubt Ben would have applied that statement to our enemies.

"Our enemies" existed when Franklin made his statement, and what he said applies now the same as when he spoke. It's not complicated.

43 posted on 07/10/2009 6:33:02 PM PDT by Two Ravens
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To: Two Ravens
So you think that Ben wouldn't spy on our enemies?

You're either a nut or a troll.

44 posted on 07/10/2009 6:34:26 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Venturer
Benjamin Franklin wsnt dealing with people flying airplanes into buildings and killing 3,000 people.

That is precisely the sort of moral relativism that has lead to the trashing of our Constitutional principles in almost every regard.

45 posted on 07/10/2009 6:35:22 PM PDT by Two Ravens
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To: NormsRevenge
Thank you President Bush for keeping us safe.

God bless President Bush and our brave troops.

46 posted on 07/10/2009 6:36:38 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: Venturer; Two Ravens
Benjamin Franklin wsnt dealing with people flying airplanes into buildings and killing 3,000 people.

Franklin was referring to our own citizens and not enemies of our country. A fact that seems to have slipped by the noob.

47 posted on 07/10/2009 6:37:33 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Two Ravens
What is your solution for the evil terrorists living among us? How do you expect us to know what they are doing? The only goal of the government is to protect us from domestic and foreign enemies and that is what President Bush had done for the last eight years.

God bless President Bush and our brave troops.

48 posted on 07/10/2009 6:40:46 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: Two Ravens
I suppose you agree with reading terrorists "their" Miranda rights too.

The quote from Franklin was referring to our own citizens and not terrorists.

49 posted on 07/10/2009 6:42:30 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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So you think that Ben wouldn't spy on our enemies?

Franklin would have never approved of eavesdropping on American citizens inside the United States to search for evidence of terrorist activity without the court-approved warrants ordinarily required for domestic spying.

50 posted on 07/10/2009 6:42:46 PM PDT by Two Ravens
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To: Two Ravens
Franklin would have never approved of eavesdropping on American citizens inside the United States to search for evidence of terrorist activity without the court-approved warrants ordinarily required for domestic spying.

And there it is! The left's talking point.

The phone numbers that were tracked inside our country were gotten from captured terrorists cellphones and laptops.

51 posted on 07/10/2009 6:45:41 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Two Ravens

Listen liberal fool. We have captured many terrorist cells and have stopped many terrorist attacks on our homeland because of President Bush anti-terrorism policies.


52 posted on 07/10/2009 6:47:44 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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ladies and gentlemen, your democrat party motto “party before country”...


54 posted on 07/10/2009 6:50:54 PM PDT by newnhdad (The longest of journeys begins with one step.)
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To: Two Ravens

That only applies to US citizens. You are a troll.


55 posted on 07/10/2009 6:51:11 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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And there it is! The left's talking point.

The phone numbers that were tracked inside our country were gotten from captured terrorists cellphones and laptops.

Uh, did you happen to read the posted article that started this thread?

56 posted on 07/10/2009 6:51:33 PM PDT by Two Ravens
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To: Two Ravens

Are you stupid enough to believe that press?


57 posted on 07/10/2009 6:52:35 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW; Two Ravens

Two ravens is a left wing liberal. A review of his few posts since he joined our forum indicates this without any shadow of doubt. He should go to Bermuda and buy ice cream to the terrorists that Obama released there from Gitmo. May if he does this the terrorists will love him (extreme sarcasm). He is typical delusional liberal idiot who is totally detached from reality.


58 posted on 07/10/2009 6:52:57 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: jveritas

I came to the same conclusion several posts ago.


59 posted on 07/10/2009 6:53:54 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW
That only applies to US citizens. You are a troll.

You think that "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..." applies only to US citizens?

No wonder the GOP has become so liberal, when the plainspoken conservative wisdom of the Founders is so routinely shat upon.

60 posted on 07/10/2009 6:55:11 PM PDT by Two Ravens
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