Posted on 07/09/2009 2:44:17 PM PDT by TaraP
A 350ft crop circle of an ancient Mayan symbol, said to be a sign of an impending apocalypse, has appeared next to Silbury Hill in Wiltshire. The giant pattern - thought to represent a traditional Mayan head-dress - appeared next to the tallest prehistoric man-made mound in Europe last week. Members of the crop circle community believe the mystic symbol is a signal of the end of the 5,126-year Mayan 'Long Count' calendar on December 21, 2012 Karen Alexander, a crop circle enthusiast, said: "This is one of the most interesting crop circles I have ever seen. It is definitely a Mayan symbol and we are sure it is linked to the Mayan calendar, which ends in 2012. "It appears to be a warning about the world coming to an end when the calendar does. For the ancient Maya, reaching the end of a cycle was a momentous event, so we are taking this crop circle very seriously as an indicator of a possibly huge event in 2012." Last month a 400-foot crop circle depicting a phoenix rising from the flames appeared in a barley field in Yatesbury near Devizes, Wiltshire. Crop circle theorists believe the patterns are created by UFOs during nocturnal visits, or caused by natural phenomena such as unusual forms of lightning striking the earth.
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I’m familiar with that, but I don’t think it matches up with all the scientific parameters and measurements that others have found in other crop circles. And, of course, that’s why I said that, in connection with all the parameters that one finds..., not just in the design factors.
You said — But that can’t sway “true believers”.
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Well, in my case, I’m not one of those so-called true believers, but I’m also not one of those “true dismissers” either... LOL...
At this point, I don’t see adequate explanations. I do see attempts at explanations, but they don’t quite meet up to all the parameters and measurements of other crop circles from what I’ve read.
But, I’m not “into it” other than reading a bit about it and contemplating it.
I’m not into some of the “origin” explanations of the “true believers” — although I do think that some can and do take good measurements and get information about certain parameters involved with crop circles.
I can “buy into” measurements and information regarding that, without buying into the “origins” explanations. There is a difference.
And with the “dismissers” — I don’t think that they have done an adequate job, other than adding a few more “comedic routines” to their repetoire... LOL...
I think this merits some more serious investigation...
Well, until I see something that is repeatable in terms of the parameters and measurements that some have documented thus far — I won’t consider it solved. I mean, I consider things as explained and solved, in the scientific realm, when an explanation is demonstrably repeatable. That’s what is needed and I haven’t seen anyone come up with it yet. And that’s what is going to be required for me.
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I will mention, however, that not all things are repeatable, and yet, can have scientific principles applied to an explanation. So, I don’t mean to say or imply that if something cannot be repeated and shown to be done in a certain way, that it’s not true (historical events are such things). That’s not what I’m saying here. There are other things, which are one-time events, that are simply not repeatable, but can still have scientific principles applied to them.
But, this phenomenon of the crop circles is not one of those “non-repeatable” type of things. Thus, that’s why in order to have an explanation that works, it must fall completely into line with being repeatable and with all the parameters that one finds in any other crop circle (i.e., all measurements that can be taken and are recorded for others). Until that is done, it’s simply *not explained*....
There’s been tons of very serious investigation and comparisons between
authentic ‘other’ sorts of crop formations
and those
by drunks with boards on strings.
There’s essentially no realistic, serious, comparision. They are about as different to the serioius investigator as night vs day.
Of course, chrnoic addicted naysayers are not at all interested in being influenced by the truth of such matters.
It IS impossible to do the larger more complex circles in the times involved.
Researchers have been at fields at a given point in time.
an hour or IIRC 40 minutes later in some cases, a very large complex crop circle was fully there.
And, there were NO . . . as in 0.00000000% human foot prints on the soft field soil going into or out of the whole field since the last rain etc. etc. etc.
Yet the naysayers’ explanations are outrageously MORE preposterous than the alternative ‘other’ explanations.
And yet the naysaywers think of themselves as
MORE rational.
Clearly they are addicted to cluelessness in the matter for probably psychodynamic reasons.
WRONG.
Actually,
Occam’s razor indicates it’s NOT drunks with boards.
Sheesh.
Serious Study of the topic before saying foolish things is usually advisable.
The measurements regarding
1. microbursts of something akin to or equal to microwaves on the plant nodes
2. super dry soil
3. seeds sprouting faster
4. plants grown from such seeds being more drought resistent
5. plants grown from such seeds growing taller and more healthily
6. micro-fine iron particles dusting the frmation
7. magnetic anomolies
have all been REPEATEDLY SCIENTIFICALLY DOCUMENTED over a wide range of authentic crop formations.
And such have been written up in several peer reviewed scientific journals in the agricultural sciences.
Such are referenced and posted in the subscriber’s section of Linda Moulton Howe’s
website.
Of course occultic sources of information are not to be sought by Christians.
However, Christians are to watch and be ready and to understand what’s reality around them.
Denying reality is not particularly redemptive.
Actually, though I cherish you as a Christian Bro,
I’m embarrassed for you about your posts on this topic.
Virtually every one shows that you have not studied the topic virtually at all
or
you are not telling the truth about what you’ve studied.
Their wives shold try to be a little more affectionate.
Actually,
Linda Moulton Howe personally knows researchers that have documented short times for large crop formations.
The specifics have been documented on her website and on the websites of the researchers.
Who knows what the messages mean. There’s lots of conjectures about that.
I believe they are going to end up lending support for the fallen angels deception of the END TIMES casting “ET’s” as saviors of mankind and the planet as they coerce world citizens into the global satanic government.
Errr . . . IIRC, yes, you did, in so many words.
The two original hoaxers I think you mentioned above were essentially drunks with boards by their own admission.
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