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Minnesota’s experience shows thirst for ethanol evaporating
Journalstar.com ^ | 7-3-2009 | ALEX ROBINSON

Posted on 07/04/2009 7:19:38 AM PDT by stan_sipple

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1 posted on 07/04/2009 7:19:38 AM PDT by stan_sipple
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Good news. Except under the new Marxists in power, ethanol will likely become mandated for a certain percentage of the driving public’s automobiles, no matter the cost or any other problem associated with such a mandate.


2 posted on 07/04/2009 7:23:22 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: stan_sipple

Ideas have consequences. Acting on stupid ideas results in poor outcomes.


3 posted on 07/04/2009 7:23:25 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
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To: stan_sipple

Burning ethanol for fuel emits twice as much CO2 into the atmosphere than its gasoline equivalent emits.


4 posted on 07/04/2009 7:23:26 AM PDT by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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The Minnesota legislature has mandated 20 percent ethanol for 2012...


5 posted on 07/04/2009 7:24:43 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: stan_sipple

If the current administration proves successful with its policies, there will be a greater need for ethanol than ever before.


6 posted on 07/04/2009 7:26:18 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("Baldrick, to you the Renaissance was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it?")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

The Minnesota has mandated a sizeable increase in CO2 emissions.


7 posted on 07/04/2009 7:26:44 AM PDT by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: stan_sipple

There was an article back in the winter of a school system that used ethanol in their school buses. When it got really cold, the ethanol froze and they couldn’t run their buses. Apparently gasoline has a lower threshold for freezing, but in Minnesota, they need something that doesn’t freeze.


8 posted on 07/04/2009 7:26:48 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: stan_sipple

Eric Peters had an excellent column on how the government mandates higher mileage and then puts out requirements that causes cars to get lower milage. Ethanol is just one of those, 10-15 percent less MPG with 10% Ethanol mixed into gasoline than with pure gasoline.....I found that myself years ago when my Geo Storm milage dropped from 33mpg to 29 mpg for my daily commute in city traffic to work, after the 10% ethanol was made mandatory by the state of Maryland. Geo Storm was 5 speed, 4 cylinder.


9 posted on 07/04/2009 7:30:06 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: autumnraine

I think that was soy oil additized diesel, aka biodiesel. When you get to IA-Minnesota winters, you’d better have more than a tank heater...


10 posted on 07/04/2009 7:33:12 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Its not how good an idea is which counts, it is how well it is implemented. A poor idea well implemented is better that a good idea poorly implemented. Unfortunately, Uncle Sam tends to come up with poor ideas and to implement them poorly at great expense. The purpose seems to be not whether the idea works or not, but do certain groups or persons become prosperous and does the Federal Government obtain more effective control over certain of our life’s decisions.


11 posted on 07/04/2009 7:37:15 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine
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To: stan_sipple

All I read is blah blah blah. Maybe the sales are down because it’s crap. The stuff is hard on the engine period.


12 posted on 07/04/2009 7:37:18 AM PDT by repubpub
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ethanol makes my van stall out. I have also heard from diesel mechanics that “green diesel” makes engines seize up because the fuel gums them up.


13 posted on 07/04/2009 7:39:14 AM PDT by stan_sipple
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To: stan_sipple

They just can’t leave America alone.

They think they have to change everything.

We’re being led by idiots or wusses in just about every state but Alaska.


14 posted on 07/04/2009 7:41:58 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (The plan... 0 in power for life. At least that's what they told him.)
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To: stan_sipple

Sorry I forgot to say “have a great 4th” keep our fighting men and women in our thoughts as we fire up the BBQ today and for all those attending tea parties this weekend, give ‘em hell.


15 posted on 07/04/2009 7:42:20 AM PDT by repubpub
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To: stan_sipple

Climate this year has been colder and wetter (on the ground). Farmers have been delayed in planting. That translates as less fuel use. Add to that the worldwide Obama Depression and there you have it ~ less demand for ethanol.


16 posted on 07/04/2009 7:42:58 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: stan_sipple

Ethanol is just more corporate welfare


17 posted on 07/04/2009 7:47:38 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
E85 is generally less expensive than regular gasoline because of subsidies from the federal government.

So, without socialist support, this unmarketable product would have hit the skids early in a capitalist system. Any time you burn food to supplant an easier acquired resource, you have to credit stupidity for the expensive consequences.

18 posted on 07/04/2009 7:50:24 AM PDT by Thommas
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With the Senator they just elected, more than half of them should be required to drive ethanol powered clown cars that run on Cutty Sark.


19 posted on 07/04/2009 7:50:59 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (This tagline temporarily closed until I finish building my deck.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

LOL.

Non denatured ethanol I’m thinking.


20 posted on 07/04/2009 8:14:32 AM PDT by TFMcGuire (Life is tough. It is even tougher if you are stupid--John Wayne)
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