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Costly Air Marshal Service a Waste of Money
Scripps Howard News Service ^ | June 29, 2009 | Michael Collins

Posted on 06/30/2009 7:19:09 PM PDT by DBrow

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To: antiunion person
Passengers wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell if trained terrorists took over control of an aircraft.

You are correct. They would probably die. So would the terrorists. 'Let's Roll' still rings loud and clear.

Good men died to kill bad men that wanted to kill more. Some days, that's all you get.

/ohnny

21 posted on 06/30/2009 7:41:44 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: Iron Munro

Thanks, Iron, I wish I had said that when I was searching for equivalents.

We have armed guards in most other critical points.


22 posted on 06/30/2009 7:42:11 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Cicero

As I said above, a ruse can make the pilot open the armored door to respond to a threat.

Then, the CS grenade gets chucked and the plot thickens (assuming that the “wasteful” scanners and stuff at check-in are also taken out).

I mention CS because I found out that TSA takes a dim view of gas masks in carry on. Geiger counters too, though I could not figure out why.


23 posted on 06/30/2009 7:46:03 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: OneWingedShark

I agree. Society is safer if criminals don’t know who’s armed.

Plus I think something like Glasers is safer than the Sig .357 the marshals carry.


24 posted on 06/30/2009 7:48:29 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: doc1019
I'm not sure what the problem is. There is more and more pressure on the program from the left, and this moonbat is part of it.

Maybe it's just people with guns?

Maybe someone is pumping money into the concept of rolling back all the airline safety stuff (much of which was put in by Algor, a solid leftie).

25 posted on 06/30/2009 7:51:12 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: DBrow

Well, you may be right, although I’d like to see more pilots armed as well, at least those who choose to take the training.

How about we save money by abolishing the Department of Education instead?

(We wish.)


26 posted on 06/30/2009 7:53:19 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: DBrow
What a fool. Kids who get vaccinations almost certainly never get the diseases for which they are vaccinated... let's stop that too!

Hmmm... cholera and dysentery aren't major problems in the USA either, we should stop garbage collection and sewer service too!

27 posted on 06/30/2009 7:53:25 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: DBrow
Obviously, enough time has passed since 9/11 that we can now forget about it. Time heals all wounds but it also exposes all heels.

Congressman Duncan, you are an ass.

28 posted on 06/30/2009 7:55:59 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: driftdiver

“Air marshals are easy to spot and any serious terrorist would take them out first.”

I don’t fly a lot, probably 5 or 6 times a year. In the past couple of years i have spotted hree of them on seperate flights. One was so lazy he made no attempt to conceal his weapon. He sat in the seat to the back of the plan just in front of the bathrooms. He was paying less attention to the passengers and more in his book he was reading. All it would have taken was a can of soda or my laptop power supply and bonk on the head as I was coming out of the rest room and viola I would have been armed!


29 posted on 06/30/2009 7:56:36 PM PDT by Syntyr (If its too loud your too old...)
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To: pnh102

Air Marshals haven’t stopped a thing, in fact, they’ve been accused of more crimes than they’ve stopped. It costs almost a billion dollars for this program. The Congressman is right, but since this program employs so many union members, its probably never going anywhere.


30 posted on 06/30/2009 7:57:55 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (B. Hussein Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: Jeff Gordon

The Omamabots won’t bring up 9/11 that’s for sure.

Time to move on. I wonder when the left will take down the Threat Warning color charts they insisted Bush put up all over.

It would be nice to fly without taking off my shoes, but I noticed that planes stopped dropping out of the sky after Oct 2001 (I think) when the Shoe Bomber got busted and they started checking everyone’s shoes. Nowhere near as many “accidents” after that.


31 posted on 06/30/2009 8:00:11 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Boiling Pots

I think the mere presence of them stops some things.

And it costs nowhere near a billion dollars, look it up.


32 posted on 06/30/2009 8:02:08 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: DBrow

I wish I could give you a qualified answer. I can’t. The only thing I can think of is the attempted universal reach of Islam. If you can clear the planes, trains and other forms of transportation of any deterrent … and crap happens!

But, to postulate this idea reeks of conspiracy … and I’m not a conspiracy nut.

The only thing I’m willing to personally consider along these lines is Obama’s Islamic heritage.

Other than that, who knows?

;-)


33 posted on 06/30/2009 8:04:40 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: DBrow

$820 million. Passengers would not allow it, and if they let the pilots arm themselves, then it’d even be a greater waste of money


34 posted on 06/30/2009 8:05:48 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (B. Hussein Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: doc1019

It could be just the common thought of liberals, that if you defend against something you get more of it, force is futile.


35 posted on 06/30/2009 8:09:57 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: DaGman

I’m sure no Congressman haven’t gotten brides/contributions from the recipients of those huge airport boondoggle equipment contracts.


36 posted on 06/30/2009 8:10:08 PM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: DBrow

I just hope the Air Marshals are of a better quality than the DMV-types who work for TSA.


37 posted on 06/30/2009 8:11:43 PM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: DBrow

But if there has been little, if any, terroristic activity on airplanes since the marshals have been implemented, doesn’t logic and common sense tell us that they are doing their job (despite a few bad apples, like any industry)????

Just a thought....I’m in favor of letting them stay.


38 posted on 06/30/2009 8:12:03 PM PDT by adopt4Christ (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: DBrow
The congressman, however, said arrest records show that air marshals do very little. Since 2001, the entire agency has averaged slightly over four arrests per year. That comes to about one a year per 1,000 employees and means the government is spending about $200 million per arrest, Duncan said.


While the air marshal program may not make many arrests, I would submit that this is because they act as an effective deterrent. The question everybody was asking on September 12, 2001 was, "Where were the air marshals? Why weren't there any air marshals on these flights?"


How very soon we forget.


This Duncan guy appears to be using raw sewage for brains. Somebody should send him a memo telling him that it's just not working for him.
39 posted on 06/30/2009 8:12:07 PM PDT by Milton Miteybad
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To: DBrow

If there is a ruckus in the cabin, the armed pilot will stay in the cabin and defend the cabin from attack.

In Miami, a Federal Air Marshall prevented a terrorist from setting off a bomb in the terminal. One shot in the jetway stopped the guy. The program is worth it!


40 posted on 06/30/2009 8:13:57 PM PDT by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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