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How To Save The Newspapers, Vol. XII: Outlaw Linking [Chicago judge would outlaw links, excerpts]
Tech Crunch / Slashdot ^ | 2009-06-28 | Erick Schonfeld

Posted on 06/28/2009 6:54:50 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

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To: rabscuttle385

And then he’s going to come for your scissors and glue pot.


21 posted on 06/28/2009 8:25:26 PM PDT by La Lydia (.)
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To: rabscuttle385

These crack-down-on-the-internet solutions to make the newspapers successful is just more of the same blameshifting on the newspapers’ part. When it first became clear they were failing they blamed it on not enough racial diversity. Then they blamed it on a distracted public. Now it is the internet’s fault.

They will be totally screwed if web sites stop sending all traffic to them. What do they think is going to happen? Everyone who reads the net will be “forced” to run to the NYT’s web-site for news? Is that like when we were all “forced” to buy their liberal newspapers if we wanted any news...so we cancled our subscriptions?

Bless their empty hearts and minds, I see forced clicking and reading in our future!


22 posted on 06/28/2009 8:26:02 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: rabscuttle385

Shut down all public libraries!


23 posted on 06/28/2009 8:26:11 PM PDT by donna ("Democracy is not enough. If the culture dies, the country dies." - Pat Buchanan)
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To: rabscuttle385
-- [Posner] would ban all excerpting and linking --

And paraphrasing. That is a radical extension of copyright.

Posner is held out as nominally a conservative, FWIW. But in addition to being insane as to how far copyright ought to extend, he's VERY hostile to gun rights, and ought to be impeached on that basis alone.

SCOTUS in Presser v. Illinois: "... the states cannot, even laying the [second amendment] out of view, prohibit the people from keeping and bearing arms ..."

2nd Circuit, in Bach v Pataki: "Presser stands for the proposition that the right of the people to keep and bear arms, whatever else its nature, is a right only against the federal government, not against the states." cert. denied, 546 U.S. 1174 (2006)

7th Circuit (Posner): Anyone who doubts that Cruikshank, Presser, and Miller have "direct application in [this] case" need only read footnote 23 in Heller. It says that Presser and Miller "reaffirmed [Cruikshank’s holding] that the Second Amendment applies only to the Federal Government."

24 posted on 06/28/2009 8:42:55 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: rabscuttle385

At any rate, if a judge or a law has to be written to ‘save’ an already dying media medium, then said media mediums are already doomed to inevitable death.

Besides, a law or ruling is completely unnecessary in an age of variable and dynamic url’s, etc.


25 posted on 06/28/2009 8:48:10 PM PDT by cranked
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To: rabscuttle385

If this ever happened, the reason would be economics. papers survive by advertising. So the smart papers would allow hits to drive up numbers to make advertising more attractive.

The dumb ones would have to rely upon news interests, and there are just too many places to get news.

parsy, who figures all kind of stupid stuff will happen when papers start folding even more.


26 posted on 06/28/2009 8:52:27 PM PDT by parsifal ("Knock and ye shall receive!" (The Bible, somewhere.))
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And so it starts....drip, drip, drip,......


27 posted on 06/28/2009 9:20:46 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: rabscuttle385
I haven't read the entire thread, but I have yet to see the other side of the coin:

If a Freeper sees and posts data on a breaking news story, can we prevent any other site, TV station, radio station and newspaper from linking or posting on the internet?

That almost could be fun!

Silly idiots have no idea what they're starting.

28 posted on 06/28/2009 9:33:15 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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SO, ONE person could read the article and post a precis/prarphrase on any other site.

They may own a particular format of a story, but they do not own the facts.


29 posted on 06/29/2009 8:39:46 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Are we at high crimes or misdemeanors, yet?)
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar
You want to completely kill newspapers, and not a few online news sources? Just prevent others from linking to them. That would mean if you google'd for something, it wouldn't show up. (without express permission)

That feature already exists. It's called the Robots Exclusion Standard. You put a tiny robots.txt file in your top-level directory, containing a directive that tells search engine spiders to go away. All of the ones I'm aware of (certainly Google) honor the standard. That the newspapers are not using the standard proves your point: they don't want to be completely killed. LOL!

If you visit the Wall Street Journal without a subscription, many of the articles are marked "Subscriber Content" and only show you a brief preview if you do not have a subscription. However, if you access them through Google News, the whole article shows up. What gives? Well, WSJ figures being found via search is too good for traffic to pass up, so, if you come from Google, they show you the whole article, even if you didn't pay the $150 or whatever they're now charging for a subscription. However, it turns out if you're running Firefox, you can install the RefControl extension, which you can easily configure to make Firefox claim to have been referred by Google when on wsj.com, even if all you did was click the article on the wsj.com home page. Voila! Free subscription!

30 posted on 06/29/2009 10:38:23 PM PDT by cynwoody
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