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Manhole Covers in Space
Strange Horizons ^ | 6/27/2009 | By Debbie Moorhouse

Posted on 06/27/2009 11:13:51 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

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To: raybbr

It looks like the project started in the late 1970s.

The CISN uses different types of sensors (short-period, broadband, and strong-motion) in different environments (surface and/or free field, structures, boreholes) with different recording and communications systems.

The tables figures below illustrate the range and distribution of seismic instrumentation in California and western Nevada deployed by CISN partners and collaborators. These numbers and maps were put together by David Oppenheimer, of the USGS Menlo Park, as part of a planning meeting for future CISN instrumentation held in June 2002.

California and western Nevada by the numbers (as of June 2002):

•614 short-period sensors
•198 broadband sensors
•1563 strong-motion sensors (~460 without communications)
•708 instrumented structures (lifelines, dams, buildings)
•38 borehole installations


81 posted on 06/28/2009 12:12:38 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: raybbr

http://www.cisn.org/instr/CISN_map.pdf


82 posted on 06/28/2009 12:13:53 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: UCANSEE2

I am sure the government had stations(both nuclear and seismic) up.In addition, the government would have that information. They were always taking measurements of ground movements and fallout of nuclear explosions. EG and G were contracted for those things and they would have the data too.


83 posted on 06/28/2009 12:19:04 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: sonofstrangelove

manhole covers?

I just call ‘em boxers


84 posted on 06/28/2009 12:35:33 PM PDT by woollyone (I believe God created me- you believe you're related to monkeys. Of course I laughed at you!)
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To: SampleMan
Initial speed was ~ 25,000 mph

And what was it's speed as it hit approx. 100,000 ft. altitude?

85 posted on 06/28/2009 5:30:38 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: sonofstrangelove

So, what you are trying to say is that because they didn’t hear it fall, it must be on it’s way to Pluto?


86 posted on 06/28/2009 5:33:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: UCANSEE2
Its a possibility. Who really knows? No one has the answer.Dr.Bob Brownlee thinks so. But remember, extraordinary claims requires extraordinary evidence. The evidence is so sketchy.
87 posted on 06/28/2009 8:03:13 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: sonofstrangelove
There are still a lot of bases out there.


88 posted on 06/28/2009 9:38:13 PM PDT by xjcsa (Currently shouting "I told you so" about Michael Steele on my profile page.)
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To: xjcsa

Have you heard of Nellis AFB, Groom Lake Facility,DOE Nevada,Naval Air Station Fallon,Indian Springs,Tonopah AFB Naval Air Station Fallon? DOE Nevada formerly known as the Nevada Proving Ground, the site, established on January 11, 1951, for the testing of nuclear devices, is composed of approximately 1,350 square miles (3,500 km²) of desert and mountainous terrain.At Nellis AFB, according to the United States Census Bureau, the base has a total area of 3.1 sq mi (8.0 km2), all of it land.

[url]http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/statefacts/blnv.htm[/url]


89 posted on 06/28/2009 10:15:07 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: xjcsa

All these areas are monitored by the bases I mentioned. Especially, DOE Nevada Test Site. You cannot go in there with out a pass.


90 posted on 06/28/2009 10:17:31 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: xjcsa

Bu the way the government owns 85 percent of the land in Nevada. So even if something came down you would not know about it because you would be on Federal land.

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/914109


91 posted on 06/28/2009 10:40:30 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: UCANSEE2
And what was it's speed as it hit approx. 100,000 ft. altitude?

Enough to keep going. Honestly, its been 20 years since I took physics, so I'm not going to attempt it here. I'm taking their word that an initial speed of 25,000mph at the surface is the speed required to escape the Earth's gravity for this object. Drag coefficient would of course matter, but the object would be through 50% of the atmosphere in .27 seconds.

Shooting objects into space with big cannons isn't rocket science ;-) Anyone who has placed a tin can on top of a firecracker can imagine what several kilotons focused up an air shaft might do.

The object in question was made of steel, 4" thick and about 6' across. I am unsure whether it was round or square. It was welded to the end of the shaft, which would certainly help acceleration. Inertia would prevent it from flopping around too much, it would be very heavy and would resist fluttering. In any event, it would be through 99% of the atmosphere in ~3 seconds.

92 posted on 06/29/2009 6:18:49 AM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism enslaves you & kills your soul.)
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To: Redcloak
At that velocity, wouldn’t it have burned up in the earth’s atmosphere like a meteor?

That was my thought, too. It would have burned going up at that speed and if it didn't reach escape velocity it would have burned more (maybe completely) on the way down again.

93 posted on 06/29/2009 6:38:24 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If it’s on earth then someone could potentially find it (Note to self, “relic mode” or “All Metal” hunting in area :-) ).

It might also have distictive ablation patterns and/or mild residual radioactivity from the nutron flux...


94 posted on 06/29/2009 8:28:33 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: sonofstrangelove

I doubt there was 1/5th of those there in the 50’s...


95 posted on 06/29/2009 8:31:31 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Axenolith

I think we had much more due to the testing at DOE Nevada. We detected the North Korean tests through seismology. I am willing to bet that EG&G had developed the technology. Here is some reading for you:

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:C1w8vCTIhu4J:www.eas.slu.edu/People/LZhu/teaching/eas130/detect.ppt+Nuclear+Seismic+Device&cd=25&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


96 posted on 06/29/2009 9:03:46 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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