Posted on 06/23/2009 5:14:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
I certainly don’t have a solution. All I said was perhaps we should start looking at it as something the govt should be providing. I would imagine there would have to be some major changes in how people look at all aspects of the medical business world, to start with. Unfortunately, I don’t see that happening in my lifetime.
If the government provides health care, rest assured, it will be rationed, and also, it would become an open door for government to be involved in EVERY aspect of our lives.
You can kiss our “Free Republic” good-bye.
I’m sure the future holds lots of change.
For a conservative, what you're advocating ISN'T AN OPTION.
Who do you mean by "we?" No conservative would even begin to entertain the NOTION of government-provided health care.
I'll enlighten you right now: Your views on this one issue brand you as a socialist. You need to find a like-minded group of on-line communists with which you can plot to take over the world.
You've been a member here for ten years. There's no way you're so stupid that you don't know the difference between conservative and socialist viewpoints on major political issues. Who do you think you're kidding?
The solution is to cut out the middleman.
Doctors should be free to contract with people on a retainer basis directly without intermediary insurance, and consumers should be free to choose any firm they wish.
For a set price, you could contract the firm to provide a certain level of service, i.e., priority, level of care provided. You could pay for bare bones level, or for bigger care, depending on what you want to pay for.
You could even finance the fees, pay in monthly installments, etc.
Firms would compete with each other for business, so that would keep prices down. It won’t be tied to employment, so that’s another big plus, it’s just a simple transaction between a producer and a consumer.
That’s the way it should be.
Perhaps not in the immediate future, but I think eventually it will be.
Times and thinking change.
I have no desire to either plot, or take over anything, much less the world.
Maybe, I just don’t feel like listing a bunch of things, just to have you pick them apart. If you want answers, give me a list, and I’ll tell you how I think on the issue.
And the exorbitant prices charged by hospital and medical equipment providers, should be reduced drastically.
“Doctors should be free to contract with people...”
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And then those people would have a right to health care to the extent of whatever they contracted for. It would be a contract right, not a natural or unalienable or fundamental right.
If you depend on someone else to give it to you, it's not a right.
This is asinine. At no point in the future will any true conservative believe it's a good idea for the government to run health care. No conservative will ever believe money that could be spent in the private sector by citizens free to choose private health care options would be better spent by the government. No conservative wants to grow government. No conservative wants to give government more power. No conservative ever will.
It's difficult to imagine anyone thinks the way you do, stuartcr. Your viewpoint is extremely bizarre.
Times and thinking change.
Conservatives don't change the way they think about government. They want as little of it as possible. Liberals are the ones consistently pushing the envelope for change. They will not rest until the government is involved in every aspect of our lives and we have no freedoms left.
Maybe, I just don’t feel like listing a bunch of things, just to have you pick them apart. If you want answers, give me a list, and I’ll tell you how I think on the issue.
NO. You claimed to be conservative on some issues, moderate on some, liberal on others...people don't have to be one or the other, you suggested.
You're the one who made the claim to be conservative on some issues. It's up to you to show where and how you're a conservative...because so far you've merely shown yourself to be a communist.
I repeat my question: On what issues are you conservative?
Predicting the future is a valuable ability, kudos on yours.
We all have read things over the years that we remember when something jogs that memory. You must realise that this happens to many people. Be realistic, how could you expect anyone to remember the day and time, and then go back and sift through those threads. This is a tired ploy that makes you look foolish with nothing left to say.
That being said, even if I had the time to do that, this doesn’t mean enough to me to make it worth the effort. If it is so necessary for you to know where I stand on issues, let me know what they are, and I will answer.
Sorry, my bold key doesn’t appear to be working, so I can’t yell back...
that about sums it up.
“Perhaps now, when medical service costs exceed what the average person can pay, and so many people have gone into debt from medical and hospital costs, it should be considered a right.”
Pay your own way in this world or lay down in the street and die!
Don’t forget the other part of my comment...’After all, it is 2009, and what’s the use of having time pass, without things getting better?’
Stealing from workers to give health care to someone isn’t making things better.
i despise charity!!!
OK
What about a "nice to have."
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