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Big banks repay government bailout funds
Yahoo! Finance ^ | June 17, 2009 | Elinor Comlay and Steve Eder

Posted on 06/17/2009 2:05:23 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot

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Where are the Freepers who thought the TARP money was a gift / would never be paid back?
1 posted on 06/17/2009 2:05:24 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot
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To: 1rudeboy; Mase; expat_panama; Rusty0604; Jim 0216; xjcsa; VegasCowboy

Paying back that TARP, PING!


2 posted on 06/17/2009 2:06:11 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I bet 0bama never thought it would be paid back, either. he was hoping.


3 posted on 06/17/2009 2:07:15 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Toddsterpatriot

PLEASE! Most of these are the banks that didn’t want the damn money to begin with but were “pressured” under threat to take it....or ELSE! I KNOW that Northern Trust has wanted to give it back from the moment it was forced on them.


4 posted on 06/17/2009 2:09:15 PM PDT by battletank
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To: Toddsterpatriot

So what is the government going to do with the money? I understand it will be a revolving fund so that the USG [read Obama] can use the money as a slush fund to carry our their other “reforms.”


5 posted on 06/17/2009 2:12:39 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I love the spin in the very first line - as if restrictions on executive pay was the only reason these institutions wanted the government thugs out of their offices...


6 posted on 06/17/2009 2:14:28 PM PDT by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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To: kabar
Whats the line on GM and Chrysler paying it back???
7 posted on 06/17/2009 2:15:09 PM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristote)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Yes, Bush modelled TARP on the RTC...a huge percentage of which was paid back.

But if you told Freepers that last Fall you had mud thrown at you.

8 posted on 06/17/2009 2:17:35 PM PDT by what's up
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To: handy old one

Slim to none, and Slim just left town.


9 posted on 06/17/2009 2:17:57 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Man, I so need a book to come out about this (by a reputable author, with lots of footnotes). We are heading into the Twilight Zone of "I saw it on a blog it must be true" area of mendacity regarding this subject.
10 posted on 06/17/2009 2:18:37 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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" Where are the Freepers who thought the TARP money was a gift / would never be paid back? "

Check out the reason that "some" banks are paying it back. And let's not forget Obama's buying spree of GM and Chrysler with TARP money. That ain't getting paid back.

But I was not one of the Freepers who said it would not be paid back, but I still don't see it all being paid back. And the reasons are obvious why it is being paid back by a few banks.

11 posted on 06/17/2009 2:19:17 PM PDT by avacado
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At least 22 smaller banks have been allowed to repay some or all of their TARP money, although most must still negotiate terms to buy back or extinguish their associated warrants.
12 posted on 06/17/2009 2:19:33 PM PDT by kabar
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$66 billion paid back; at least $634 billion to go. So far, a not impressive 10% recovery. The financial institutions and the Feds have better hope for a quick economic recovery if there is any chance of a greater payback. Given the likelihood of more taxes and greater regulations and the inflationary effects of trillion dollar deficits, the normal recovery from a recession will be thwarted, just as the New Deal legislation retarded the recovery from the 1929 crash. If commercial real estate suffers the same degree of downturn that residential real estate and the derivatives market have, then the banks and insurance companies will be approaching the Feds hat in hand once more.


13 posted on 06/17/2009 2:20:24 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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And let's not forget Obama's buying spree of GM and Chrysler with TARP money. That ain't getting paid back.

Yeah, that money is g-o-n-e, gone!

14 posted on 06/17/2009 2:21:20 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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$66 billion paid back; at least $634 billion to go. So far, a not impressive 10% recovery.

LOL!

15 posted on 06/17/2009 2:22:12 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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The RTC at least had real estate to liquidate. Even if overvalued, there was still a market value to the underlying properties. The TARP assets are toxic waste, junk mortgage derivatives and other exotic instruments lacking any market.


16 posted on 06/17/2009 2:22:55 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.
The TARP assets are toxic waste, junk mortgage derivatives and other exotic instruments lacking any market.

You are incorrect! The TARP money (at least in regards to financial companies) bought preferred stock yielding 5% plus warrants. No derivatives or exotic instruments as far as the eye can see.

17 posted on 06/17/2009 2:25:56 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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The financial institutions effectively have had their liabilities guaranteed by the Feds plus a large infusion of new capital funds. Even the incompetent managers of these institutions, who basically wrecked them through gross mismanagement, can make some money under such circumstances. A 10% recovery of principal over a six month period is not enough to justify the TARP bailout.


18 posted on 06/17/2009 2:26:42 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Is it the responsibility of the US Taxpayer to take on such risk?

BTW where did the AIG bailout money go?


19 posted on 06/17/2009 2:29:44 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (B. Hussein Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: Wallace T.
A 10% recovery of principal over a six month period is not enough to justify the TARP bailout.

That's not the justification for TARP. And let's not pretend that 10% is the only recovery.

The auto money is lost and AIG looks kinda shaky, but the rest of the money will be recovered with interest.

20 posted on 06/17/2009 2:31:02 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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