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“Junk” DNA: Darwinism’s Last Stand?
Discovery Institute ^ | June 4, 2009 | Jonathan Wells, Ph.D.

Posted on 06/05/2009 8:25:33 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

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To: GodGunsGuts
Despite the hype from Darwin’s followers, the evidence for his theory is underwhelming, at best. Natural selection—like artificial selection—can produce minor changes within existing species. But in the 150 years since the publication of Darwin’s Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, no one has ever observed the origin of a new species by natural selection—much less the origin of new organs and body plans.

Which is a strawman since evolution doesn't occur that quickly. Now if you're a promoter of ignorance and think the Universe is only 6000 years old, then it's a whole different story.

21 posted on 06/05/2009 9:19:19 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62

The real promoters of ignorance are those who put their trust in the med school dropout, turned clergy dropout, turned amateur naturalist, who then presumed to write a long argument on behalf of his natural selection god with nothing more than minor variations within species to go on. And all the unfulfilled atheists fell for it hook, line and sinker. Now that’s ignorance!


22 posted on 06/05/2009 9:24:37 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

“The real promoters of ignorance are those who put their trust in the med school dropout, turned clergy dropout, turned amateur naturalist, who then presumed to write a long argument on behalf of his natural selection god with nothing more than minor variations within species to go on. And all the unfulfilled atheists fell for it hook, line and sinker. Now that’s ignorance!”

—No, ignorance is thinking that modern fields of science are any more dependent on Darwin than modern astronomy is dependent on Copernicus.
Ignorance is also not realizing that Darwin based his arguments on many fields of science, including taxonomy, biogeography, comparative anatomy, paleontology, embryology, etc.


23 posted on 06/05/2009 9:45:09 AM PDT by goodusername
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To: GodGunsGuts

Yet another strawman. At least you didn’t mention Darwin by name.


24 posted on 06/05/2009 9:48:40 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

How can I trust a god who so screwed up his initial attempts at creation that he must continuously tinker with his project? A competent god would have got it done in the first Planck Second and let his laws of physics take it from there.


25 posted on 06/05/2009 9:49:08 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (I don't trust Obama with my country. Do you?)
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To: Jeff Gordon

Nothing in biology makes sense except in light of creation and the fall.


26 posted on 06/05/2009 10:00:51 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: goodusername

That’s why I call it the Temple of Darwinistic Materialism. The name may change from time to time, but the aim is always the same.


27 posted on 06/05/2009 10:14:32 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Jeff Gordon

If we lowly humans can create machines that function in space and other planets, I wonder why God didn’t do the same.


28 posted on 06/05/2009 10:30:45 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Riodacat

The scientific community often accuses Creationists of basing their science on presupposition, while completely ignoring their own tendency to do so as well.


29 posted on 06/05/2009 11:01:22 AM PDT by Karma Police (Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!!!)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Nothing in biology makes sense except in light of creation and the fall.

How do the creation and fall explain god's failure to get it right the first time?

30 posted on 06/05/2009 12:34:21 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (I don't trust Obama with my country. Do you?)
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To: Jeff Gordon

Who says He got anything wrong. He wanted creatures with free will, and He got creatures with free will...and all that that implies.


31 posted on 06/05/2009 12:36:21 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Jeff Gordon
How do the creation and fall explain god's failure to get it right the first time?

LOL!

Always... ALWAYS someone will come along with their own definition of "right", then declare that God doesn't meet it.

32 posted on 06/05/2009 12:41:18 PM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possiblity of failure.)
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To: TChris; Jeff Gordon; GodGunsGuts; metmom

How do the creation and fall explain god’s failure to get it right the first time?

LOL!

Always... ALWAYS someone will come along with their own definition of “right”, then declare that God doesn’t meet it.


JG: “How can I trust a god who so screwed up his initial attempts at creation that he must continuously tinker with his project?”

Meanwhile things just evolve, over ga-jillions of years...just for uhhhh for fun I guess?

LOL!

And for what reason?

They have to evolove over ga-jillions of years so no one will be around to see it or confirm it. How very convenient when evos are demanding proof...this way they don’t have to abide by their own demands, like with the medical miracles issues.

Why aren’t there giant animals flyng by now? They’ve only had ga-jillions of years...so why aren’t there animals that can fly like an eagle, swim like a dolphin, run like a cheetah ALL AT ONCE by now?

Or do we just need to be patient ANOTHER 500 ga-jillion or so years?


33 posted on 06/05/2009 1:56:10 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: Riodacat; YHAOS; Fichori; tpanther; valkyry1; Mr. Silverback; Ethan Clive Osgoode; betty boop; ...

Here are the facts?

Like Einstein when he fudged his relativity equations by adding the cosmological constant to make them fit the steady state theory of the universe, popular among scientists of his day?

Like Piltdown Man and archaeoraptor?

Like:
Studies examine withholding of scientific data among researchers, trainees
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1565120/posts

It May Look Authentic; Here’s How to Tell It Isn’t
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1563746/posts

Most scientific papers are probably wrong
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1473528/posts

Most Science Studies Appear to Be Tainted By Sloppy Analysis
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1896333/posts

Why Most Published Research Findings Are False
http://medicine.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-document&doi=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124&ct=1

One in seven scientists say colleagues fake data
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2264439/posts

You Can Trust a Scientist – Can’t You?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2262237/posts


34 posted on 06/05/2009 2:41:52 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Jeff Gordon
A competent god would have got it done in the first Planck Second and let his laws of physics take it from there.

Wow, we've just met someone smarter than God?

Who knew?

35 posted on 06/05/2009 2:44:59 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Stupid would be correctable but biased, self important, dishonest, willfully obtuse and full of its self in the practice of science is much more difficult to deal with.

Unfortunately that is becoming ever more common and failure to recognize or defending it means science as a whole becomes less trustworthy.

Need examples?


36 posted on 06/05/2009 2:58:55 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: metmom
Wow, we've just met someone smarter than God?

No, not smarter than God. Just smarter than the Creationist's god who always does things the hard way.

37 posted on 06/05/2009 4:52:38 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (I don't trust Obama with my country. Do you?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

What does free will have to do with creation?


38 posted on 06/05/2009 4:54:46 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (I don't trust Obama with my country. Do you?)
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To: tpanther
Why aren’t there giant animals flyng by now?

Because it was not in God's plan. The plan God had when he created all that is in the first Planck Second of this universe.

39 posted on 06/05/2009 4:58:04 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (I don't trust Obama with my country. Do you?)
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To: Jeff Gordon; GodGunsGuts
“How can I trust a god who so screwed up his initial attempts at creation that he must continuously tinker with his project? A competent god would have got it done in the first Planck Second and let his laws of physics take it from there.”
Well, since you know the right way to creatio ex nihilo, why don't you do a demonstration?

While your at it, could you also adjust a few politicians ideologies?
40 posted on 06/05/2009 5:07:20 PM PDT by Fichori
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