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Toyota’s Bad Day
The Truth About Cars ^ | June 1, 2009 | Ken Elias

Posted on 06/04/2009 5:30:27 AM PDT by CSM

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To: CASchack
I agree, the pre-2010 Ford Fusion had too much chrome and just didn't look refined. We bought a 2008 Mercury Milan (essentially the same car) and it looks so much better.

Ours was in dark blue ink though, which looks a lot nicer

81 posted on 06/04/2009 6:46:17 AM PDT by Crolis (Kill your television!)
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To: ALPAPilot

That’s a Navistar engine, and Ford has been battling with them (including in court) over quality problems for years. They finally decided to develop a new engine in-house. If Toyota sold a diesel pickup in the U.S., more than likely, they’d also use an outside engine supplier.


82 posted on 06/04/2009 6:46:31 AM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: CSM

no one take MY toyota away from me.......never happen.


83 posted on 06/04/2009 6:47:49 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Nahhh, that’s a $38,000 Acura TL.


84 posted on 06/04/2009 6:50:23 AM PDT by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar!)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
I don’t know who this guy Elias is, but is he on crack?

That's what I wondered. He's still stuck in old Detroit thinking, that says what people see in the showroom is the only thing that determines what they will buy. He hopes that American consumers will continue to be blind when it comes to resale value, maintenance and repair costs, and general reliability.

That's how Detroit has hosed the American public for the last three, maybe four decades, and Elias thinks "happy days are here again" for that sort of moneymaking technique. He's in for a rude awakening.

85 posted on 06/04/2009 6:51:24 AM PDT by hunter112 (SHRUG - Stop Hussein's Radical Utopian Gameplan!)
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To: BelleAl
My dad, who will be 93 next week, is still pissed at the Japanese for Pearl Harbor. He is the last person anyone would imagine driving a Japanese vehicle or voting for a democrat.

But when he helped me move to NC from Arizona in my brand new Toyota Tacoma 4x4, the first thing he did when he got back home was sell his car and buy a Toyota Sienna. Mom was next and has had a Honda ever since. (My ultra-liberal sisters drive GM cars and SUVs.)

86 posted on 06/04/2009 6:51:38 AM PDT by GBA
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To: C19fan
the Obama-UAW Inc. is the final stake through the heart of the american made automobile......what the unions and regulations alone could not do, the government is here to assist with. death to the US made vehicle industry....
87 posted on 06/04/2009 6:51:44 AM PDT by tioga
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To: CSM

What a load of crap. This has to be satire.


88 posted on 06/04/2009 6:51:54 AM PDT by trtdenver
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To: CSM

How many people here who refuse to buy an American car, bitch about Walmart buying from China?


89 posted on 06/04/2009 6:54:42 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: CSM

I’ll believe it when I see it. Sounds like some phenomenally wishful thinking. I highly doubt the big three emerge as the well oiled machines the author predicts. In fact i’m fairly confident that Toyota will still enjoy better management. It also is really hard to win back customers who have been driven off by decades of arrogance and inferior products when they have found companies that have met their needs well. If i’ve had Toyotas for the last fifteen years say and everyone of them has given me a positive ownership experience I really doubt it would be that easy to get me to switch from something that has worked so well for me.


90 posted on 06/04/2009 6:57:25 AM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: GreenAccord
that’s a $38,000 Acura TL

Funny how those higher-end Japanese cars look very similar.

91 posted on 06/04/2009 6:59:54 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: erman
... I'll tell you what they've done for me. Fully loaded with side airbags and reliable for a 5 year no interest and no money down. I could have paid cash for it (like I do for all my rides) but for no interest and using 75 cent dollars to pay them back... I'm good.

I've been out of the new car market for a long, long time (I don't even watch tv ads for them), but this has me kind of interested again.

92 posted on 06/04/2009 7:01:46 AM PDT by shorty_harris
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To: C19fan

“I understand a lot of car enthusiasts get excited about styling, horse power, etc. Perhaps Toyota has boring designs but in my opinion most Americans, especially families, want a reliable car to get from point A to point B with reasonable comfort. The styling and other superficial traits is icing on the cake. Toyota and Honda deliver that type of car while GM and Chrysler cannot even get that first step right and never will now they are part of Obama-UAW Inc. “

Exactly and therein lies part of the problem. Some of GMs best cars have been niche vehicles like the Corvette and the GTO. Awesome cars that are as good as anything in the world in their class but they compete in tiny segments. Where GM really has needed world beating quality and value is in the more mainstream classes. It won’t do for them to be close to as good as a Honda or even just as good. They have to be clearly better to start winning lots of people back and they just aren’t yet.


93 posted on 06/04/2009 7:02:45 AM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: CSM

I don’t care at all about cars.
I’m going to ride the Unicorn that Barack promised me. It’s going to arrive any day now.


94 posted on 06/04/2009 7:05:54 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: CSM

One of the most ludicrous articles I’ve ever started to read.


95 posted on 06/04/2009 7:07:17 AM PDT by MCH
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To: Wyatt's Torch

I’d say they’re both pretty boring, as is the Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Chevy Malibu...pretty much everything in this front-drive mid-size family car segment, other than some niche players from (overpriced) european makes. That doesn’t seem to bother a lot of people all that much, for whom cars are basically just transportation pods, anyways.


96 posted on 06/04/2009 7:11:05 AM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: netmilsmom

Good one!


97 posted on 06/04/2009 7:15:45 AM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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To: TurtleUp

“GM is ‘dead to me’.”

LOL, I like it.

If we analyze the government systems that want to control economic processes, they divide into 3.(It’s actually a gradient with “bumps”.):

communism — all economic processes owned by the state

socialism — major economic processes owned by the state

fascism — economic processes CONTROLLED by the state, but privately owned (and profits allowed)

I would suggest that China is economically FASCIST and the U.S. is flirting with moving from economic fascism to socialism.

But, the elite in China don’t have suicidal Liberal instincts as the elite in the U.S. does.


98 posted on 06/04/2009 7:17:02 AM PDT by postoak
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To: CSM

With the Illegal,Unfair and Unbalanced treatment of the shareholders in the Faux Bankruptcy of General Motors and as A Union Man oif 50 years and as an Owner and Operator of a Union Mechanical Contracting and Engineering C. I will never buy a car from GM again.

About 15 years ago I owned 15 trucks and 5 Cars all American and mostly GM including 4 Cadillacs.
I was committed to American Cars.. “NEVER AGAIN”


99 posted on 06/04/2009 7:20:49 AM PDT by chatham
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To: TurtleUp

“I believe the term for this article is “irrational exuberance”. “

It’s just an individual’s opinion. The only fact in it is that the Corvette gives more bang for your buck than either Porsche or Ferrari.


100 posted on 06/04/2009 7:24:24 AM PDT by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus - I Tim 2:5)
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