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More Dallas-Fort Worth police forces arming themselves with military-style equipment
The Fort Worth Star-Telegram ^ | May 29, 2009 | Domingo Ramirez, Jr.

Posted on 05/30/2009 6:56:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: nnn0jeh

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21 posted on 05/30/2009 7:31:23 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: elkfersupper
Start by defending the cops. They do the mop up after the bangers have their fun. They risk a heck of a lot by just showing up to work. They are truly in harms way every day.e
The clowns that tend to use their authority to intimidate those who are in a weak position or don't know what the law really says is a disgrace. Ft.Worth and Big D cops are now seeing more ghetto neighborhoods rise and with that comes the drugs and thugs.San Antonio has the highest crime rate of all Texas cities due to the influx of illegals and ghetto trash. Think twice when you get pulled over or have to call to report something. They are there to take reports and write tickets, while knowing that they can be called to some crap situation and be a target for some lunatic or gang banger.
22 posted on 05/30/2009 7:32:17 PM PDT by shadeaud ("If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin st)
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To: razorback-bert
We Want YOU for the SWAT Team!


23 posted on 05/30/2009 7:32:53 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: usmcobra
I could build a better one for under $100,000 and a 1980 chevy 4x4. .

I think you will need at least a Ford F450 for starters.

24 posted on 05/30/2009 7:33:11 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: ex91B10
No 2DV, it’s just little boys with penis envy problems.

BINGO!!!!

25 posted on 05/30/2009 7:34:02 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: bravotu

“How will History deal with US?
As Romans or Spartans?”

Unless we get real about Islam, the correct answer to your question may well be, “As dhimmi”.

Islam Delenda Est


26 posted on 05/30/2009 7:34:07 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: shadeaud
Start by defending the cops.

No, thanks.

I had my last halfway-decent "contact" with LEO's in the 1960's.

27 posted on 05/30/2009 7:37:00 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Pontiac

What’s a milspec civilian hummer cost these days?

They have to be cheaper than this boonedoogle.


28 posted on 05/30/2009 7:37:11 PM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A $226,000 armored vehicle for the North Richland Hills Police Department SWAT team arrived a few days ago to replace one the agency got in 1990.

How many dogs can they kill with that thing?

29 posted on 05/30/2009 7:37:59 PM PDT by Nate505
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Could this be partly getting ready for the next tea parties?”

....nope, just geting ready for the coming break up of America:
http://www.timebomb2000.com/misc/CWII.pdf


30 posted on 05/30/2009 7:46:33 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“... some cite an episode last year in which police used a battering ram to raid a Duncanville swingers club when no one answered a knock.”

I think that the use of a battering ram hardly constitutes the use of “military equipment”. If you actually have to have a SWAT team, enough gun(s) to do the job, armor to protect the team, and the proper training to accomplish the mission would be right up there in my book. MP5’s, AR-15’s and Rem. 700 SPS’s have been used by cops for a long time. All are “sorta” military weapons, but lots of military weapons are “sorta” civilian weapons as well so there’s really no hard and fast way to draw the line between either. It’s foolish to try to define what is “military” in hopes of using the distinction for control or prohibition.

Cops should use what is necessary to get the job done, and not get themselves hurt. Otherwise, why have cops? Just hire more social workers.


31 posted on 05/30/2009 7:59:12 PM PDT by Habibi ("We gladly feast on those who would subdue us". Not just pretty words........)
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To: shadeaud
"Start by defending the cops.",

Hell no only when they grow up and start acting like real cops instead of para military thugs.

32 posted on 05/30/2009 8:01:24 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: potlatch

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Better trained cops - ex-military

Would be a better way to go

The usual PD firearms training/practice is usually pretty sparse and accuracy is quite sad


33 posted on 05/30/2009 8:01:40 PM PDT by devolve ( . . . . . . . . Obama confiscated Teacher & Police Union pension funds? . . . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: devolve
I'm sure every police department would love to have all that but it smacks too much of ‘people control’ - looking to the future under Obama.
34 posted on 05/30/2009 8:04:05 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d be curious to know what the hell North Richland Hills used the previous such vehicle for?

It should be a matter of public record what it was used for - besides their “dress-up and play soldier” exercises...

Buncha pseudo-military jackasses are running aournd wasting their time and our money pretending to be soldiers when we’ve got a real war they could go volunteer for - but shoot; in Afghanistan, the bad guys shoot back!

Makes you want to tell them there’s always Paintball they could go play at!


35 posted on 05/30/2009 8:06:47 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: devolve

“The usual PD firearms training/practice is usually pretty sparse and accuracy is quite sad”

Agreed, your average beat cop is hardly a weapons/tactics expert. Hopefully, SWAT folks get better training, which begs the question of whether there is any national standards for SWAT training, and how consistent are the teams trained to the standard. Obiously, no standards and no adherence to them can cause a heap o’ trouble.


36 posted on 05/30/2009 8:09:03 PM PDT by Habibi ("We gladly feast on those who would subdue us". Not just pretty words........)
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To: usmcobra

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37 posted on 05/30/2009 8:11:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("The unarmed man is not just defenseless - he is also contemptible." Machiavelli)
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To: usmcobra
What’s a milspec civilian hummer cost these days?

I found a website that is selling a used Hummers with 15,000 miles on the clock for $35,000

38 posted on 05/30/2009 8:14:44 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Peanut Gallery

ping


39 posted on 05/30/2009 8:18:05 PM PDT by Professional Engineer ("A republic if you can keep it" responded Franklin. Sorry Dr. Franklin)
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To: waterhill
You coulda got your own, but this one SOLD

Ferrett Armored Scout Car

40 posted on 05/30/2009 8:25:49 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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