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Is 'String' the next big thing?: Theories about cosmic evolution dangle by a thread
Creation Magazine ^ | Gary Bates

Posted on 05/25/2009 9:31:04 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

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To: Hoosier-Daddy
Agreed. First Cause.of the Big Bang is unknown. True Scientists would leave the cause unknown until further info becomes available.

That's not the way science generally works. You postulate "causes" then predict what should be observable if your "cause" is true. Then go look for those observables. If you find them, your "cause" is not necessarily true, but it's a better explanation than what went before. Science progress by two paths. One is an attempt to explain the anomalies in observations that do not fit with the current theory, the other is to explore "causes" of known phenomena.

61 posted on 05/25/2009 11:10:46 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: DesertRhino

I guess he thinks satellite lag is a time warp.


62 posted on 05/25/2009 11:15:42 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: El Gato
"This is different from other "evolution", exactly how. The laws of physics are fully enforced."

It isn't "evolution".

63 posted on 05/25/2009 11:19:23 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: DesertRhino

You’re joking right?


64 posted on 05/25/2009 11:20:01 AM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: GreenOgre

Wait, you lost me. You are say superstition cannot be tested,,Fair enough. So can you tell us the experiment the string theory people are using to test THAT Hypothesis? The observable, repeatable experiment? The one that backs up the hypothesis that lives soley on a chalkboard as a “fix” to earlier problems in their cosmology?

Id hate to think string theory is just another superstition. Theres literally more proof that i can turn lead into gold than there are other universes. (although its so expensive it becomes pointless)


65 posted on 05/25/2009 11:21:32 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Are you two seriously denying that time dilation, an absolutely observed and proven fact, doesn’t happen?


66 posted on 05/25/2009 11:24:29 AM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: GodGunsGuts

to read later


67 posted on 05/25/2009 11:25:06 AM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: El Gato

Time “dilation” isn’t “time shifting”. It’s simple lag time, period. It takes time for information from earth to reach a sat, and be sent back or relayed further. Has nothing to do with speed of sat. in orbit, only distance between objects and processing time.


68 posted on 05/25/2009 11:26:09 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Yep,, it amazes me what some can believe, while simultaneously being critical of Christians for believing things without evidence. “Mr pot,,i’d like to introduce you to Mr Kettle”.

But you need to understand, these guys have a unique problem we dont face. Its harder than we realize, to find ways to reconcile observable reality with “Star Trek”.


69 posted on 05/25/2009 11:27:29 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: Sherman Logan
BBT is fully congruent with the idea of Creation. All it requires is the belief that God set off the Bang.

You can take that line of thinking even further. Compae the sequence of creation over the 6 "days" in Genesis and compae it to the scientific sequence of the development of Earth. They're basically parallel.

70 posted on 05/25/2009 11:27:40 AM PDT by mitchbert (Facts Are Stubborn Things .)
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To: DesertRhino

Are you seriously saying that an observed fact, something which actually does happen and is compensated for in order for GPS to work, doesn’t happen?

I just really need to see what I’m dealing with here.


71 posted on 05/25/2009 11:28:43 AM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: catpuppy

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? Apparently all of them, as well as all of us, them, those, and whatever else we can sense.

I guess we’re all pinheads!


72 posted on 05/25/2009 11:28:44 AM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: Tolsti2

Uhhhmmm you’re the one with a sign up date of April 1st. Amazing talent, you are ironic without even trying,,accusing me of joking?


73 posted on 05/25/2009 11:29:41 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: Tolsti2

Are you two seriously denying that time dilation, an absolutely observed and proven fact, doesn’t happen?

No, I’m saying lag time is simply that. It isn’t “time shifting”


74 posted on 05/25/2009 11:30:28 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
It's pretty well proven that at relativistic speeds dilation occurs. NK just set of a nuke as another example of the veracity of relativity.
75 posted on 05/25/2009 11:30:50 AM PDT by allmost
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To: El Gato

Maybe you can explain something in easy language. I never understood how telescopes can “look back” to a few hundred million years or less after the “Big Bang “(thought he was a rapper in L.A.?). Where are we in relation to this light or ultraviolet light? How come we can “see” so far, is the light always there to see and we just haven’t looked?


76 posted on 05/25/2009 11:32:16 AM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: Nathan Zachary
The age of the Church brought with it enlightenment, and took us out of the dark ages.

During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution.

James Madison, Memorial and Remonstrance against Religious Assessments, 20 June 1785

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/amendI_religions43.html

77 posted on 05/25/2009 11:32:16 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: BlueStateBlues

‘Cosmic inflation’ is the answer. The universe expanded faster than the speed of light. In fact, it still does. Places far away are moving away from us faster than the speed of light. The space between us and it is stretching out, which doesn’t violate any physical laws.


78 posted on 05/25/2009 11:35:13 AM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: Tolsti2

And I’ll even prove it to you right... NOW!

That satellite is exactly where it is at the same time I’m exactly where I am. No time warp at all. No lag either since I never sent any info to it. It was exactly where it was at the exact same time I was exactly where I was at the exact same moment. Sorry, no time warp.


79 posted on 05/25/2009 11:37:09 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Tolsti2

Really? Expanding faster than the speed of light? I may have known that in the past but it’s very fascinating. Thanks, very much.

Does anyone know how much faster than the speed of light the new volume of space is being created? I’m going to have to study and think about this aspect. Thanks again.


80 posted on 05/25/2009 11:37:48 AM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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