Posted on 05/25/2009 9:31:04 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
That's not the way science generally works. You postulate "causes" then predict what should be observable if your "cause" is true. Then go look for those observables. If you find them, your "cause" is not necessarily true, but it's a better explanation than what went before. Science progress by two paths. One is an attempt to explain the anomalies in observations that do not fit with the current theory, the other is to explore "causes" of known phenomena.
I guess he thinks satellite lag is a time warp.
It isn't "evolution".
You’re joking right?
Wait, you lost me. You are say superstition cannot be tested,,Fair enough. So can you tell us the experiment the string theory people are using to test THAT Hypothesis? The observable, repeatable experiment? The one that backs up the hypothesis that lives soley on a chalkboard as a “fix” to earlier problems in their cosmology?
Id hate to think string theory is just another superstition. Theres literally more proof that i can turn lead into gold than there are other universes. (although its so expensive it becomes pointless)
Are you two seriously denying that time dilation, an absolutely observed and proven fact, doesn’t happen?
to read later
Time “dilation” isn’t “time shifting”. It’s simple lag time, period. It takes time for information from earth to reach a sat, and be sent back or relayed further. Has nothing to do with speed of sat. in orbit, only distance between objects and processing time.
Yep,, it amazes me what some can believe, while simultaneously being critical of Christians for believing things without evidence. “Mr pot,,i’d like to introduce you to Mr Kettle”.
But you need to understand, these guys have a unique problem we dont face. Its harder than we realize, to find ways to reconcile observable reality with “Star Trek”.
You can take that line of thinking even further. Compae the sequence of creation over the 6 "days" in Genesis and compae it to the scientific sequence of the development of Earth. They're basically parallel.
Are you seriously saying that an observed fact, something which actually does happen and is compensated for in order for GPS to work, doesn’t happen?
I just really need to see what I’m dealing with here.
How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? Apparently all of them, as well as all of us, them, those, and whatever else we can sense.
I guess we’re all pinheads!
Uhhhmmm you’re the one with a sign up date of April 1st. Amazing talent, you are ironic without even trying,,accusing me of joking?
Are you two seriously denying that time dilation, an absolutely observed and proven fact, doesnt happen?
No, I’m saying lag time is simply that. It isn’t “time shifting”
Maybe you can explain something in easy language. I never understood how telescopes can “look back” to a few hundred million years or less after the “Big Bang “(thought he was a rapper in L.A.?). Where are we in relation to this light or ultraviolet light? How come we can “see” so far, is the light always there to see and we just haven’t looked?
During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution.
James Madison, Memorial and Remonstrance against Religious Assessments, 20 June 1785
http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/amendI_religions43.html
‘Cosmic inflation’ is the answer. The universe expanded faster than the speed of light. In fact, it still does. Places far away are moving away from us faster than the speed of light. The space between us and it is stretching out, which doesn’t violate any physical laws.
And I’ll even prove it to you right... NOW!
That satellite is exactly where it is at the same time I’m exactly where I am. No time warp at all. No lag either since I never sent any info to it. It was exactly where it was at the exact same time I was exactly where I was at the exact same moment. Sorry, no time warp.
Really? Expanding faster than the speed of light? I may have known that in the past but it’s very fascinating. Thanks, very much.
Does anyone know how much faster than the speed of light the new volume of space is being created? I’m going to have to study and think about this aspect. Thanks again.
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