Posted on 05/09/2009 5:50:41 PM PDT by wagglebee
Yep.
Obalmy hardly campaigned against Keyes. He didn’t have to. He was a shoo-in.
You would be mistaken. Keyes and Obama debated several times during the 2004 race. The results were predicatble. Keyes wowed the faithful but failed to persuade anyone outside of his base, while Obama for good or bad managed to convince IL voters that he was the man.
I get that people respect Keyes for his principled stands on the issues that define him. However, I don’t get the notion that Keyes is even a mediocre politician by any stretch. He his not. He excites his base, but has zero pull outside of that group. The public at large is rarely impressed by Keyes’ dogmatic approach.
Lest you think this is one man’s opinion, I point you to the humiliating electoral poundings by Democrats that define Keyes’ political career. 38% against Sarbanes, 29% against Mikulski, a humbling presidential primary showing in 2000, 27% against Obama in the 2004 IL senate race, and let us not forget his 2008 bid where his BEST showing was less than 3% in North Carolina.
You go Dr. Keyes! No president who supports the murder of innocent children should be welcomed anywhere!
was he sleep deprived?? water boarded?//
being considered a terrorist BY DHS??
He did, but dropped out after his divorce records were mysteriously ( yeah, right) unsealed during the campaign. Jeri Ryan said some nasty things about him, and the Obama kneepad media were more than willing to destroy him. Nobody else in Illinois Republican circles had any guts, so Keyes ran.
The media takes up the "Uncle Tom" mantra promoted by 90% of blacks and 100% of Democrats. That's why black conservatives have such a hard time getting elected.
I’ll be there in spirit as that is all I can do from here in Az.
If you live nearby, please go if you can. We need to fill the jails with pro-lifers. And if people hear "babies covered in fake blood" enough they might figure out what this battle is about. Hint: it's not about "choice."
I don’t think he ran in 2004
I wouldn't have believed it, but it's true. No one can beat Keyes on substance, but it is possible to beat him, or at least fight him to a draw, with rhetorical style. Obama answered every jab in his calm, soothing, "let me make this perfectly clear," voice. His demeanor never changed. And his answers, which were devoid of substance, were full of platitudes.
It takes great effort to cut through Obama's gooey outer coating to get to the empty inner shell. Most opponents suffocate in the goo.
Jesus wept.
For the readers of this thread:
Sane Catholics, and the Vatican, disapprove of and find abhorrent, the carnival-like tactics used by Keyes, Terry et al.
Tactics that they hope will draw attention not to the inhumanity of abortion but to their own political agendas.
Keyes, Terry et al are in the definite minority amongst (true) Catholics who adhere to the principles of God.
If any Catholic, or non-Catholic, wishes to know the truth, this disgusting display by Keyes, Terry and their crowd is frowned upon by sincere, devout Catholics, as well as the Vatican.
ND has a tradition of inviting the sitting POTUS to address the grads. Clinton spoke there, so did Reagan.
Obama speaking at ND neither caused or prevented a single abortion. Are we so afraid of a dissenting voice that we choose to silence that voice? Will Obama speaking at ND somehow legitimize or lend credence to abortion because he is an advocate of that inhumane and evil practice?
Our Father sent his own son up to a mountain to be tempted, and that son prevailed, against Lucifer himself.
Are we to be so cowered by a mere human, like Obama, speaking at a college? And I haven't seen a transcript of his speech, did it even touch on the subject?
We will not make abortion disappear by carting prams with bloodied dolls up and down a road. We will only do so by educating people and hopefully making them realize and understand the sanctity of life which begins at conception.
In Keyes’ case, I think it’s more of a lack of warmth or charisma, or something. His message isn’t his problem. His dogmatism however turns 3 people off for every person it excites. You can’t win elections like that.
FCOL! Even Clinton wasn't as in love with abortion as zero. And you seem to be under the impression that zero is interested in discourse on life issues. You're crazy. His beliefs are the only ones that matter to him.
You miss the biggest grief most of us Catholics have with this impending debacle: zero is being honored by Notre Dame, which WILL be looked upon by many as being honored by the Church as a whole. In this Catholics eyes, the man has not done an honorable thing in his life. He is at odds with the Church on virtually every life issue. He is not worthy of honor.
That's where a lot of FReeper go wrong. They presume that successful politicians are built on substance. As much as I might like that to be true, it's not. Keyes' message isn't his problem. It's his visible anger, and total lack of warmth. You can't win elections like that.
He does tend to come across as a preacher. I'll admit, that can be a handicap in a campaign.
Then provide a link where the Vatican OPPOSES demonstrations against abortion.
Also, what honorary degree was Clinton given by Notre Dame?
And finally, if this is such a non-issue, why have so many bishops condemned it?
Stop being daft. I never stated that. Can you honestly look at adults pushing baby carriages with bloodied dolls as effective, let alone sane? If you do then God help you, because you're too far gone for human intervention.
Boy I would love to watch “The One” debate Alan just once, any subject, any time, any place!
Google may be your friend. I think they had a few debates maybe three during the senate race fiasco in IL.
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