Pelosi: I Was Told Interrogation Methods Were Lawful

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[presently no screen name]

Good morals mean you protect the innocent

' Exaxrly! There is good and evil in this world. God expects us to take care of the needy, the innocent, etc. Others seems to revel in having evil run rampant despite what God wants. We are too hate evil as much as He does.

Yours was a good post!

[GingisK]

You are either incredibly naive or you are a troll, take your pick.

Third option: moral.

[GingisK]

...American citizen, with inalienable rights assured by the Constitution...

...All men are endowed from their Creator by certain inalienable Rights...

You either believe your Creed, or you don't.

[presently no screen name]

Anything good enough for the CIA is good enough for you local police department.

What a comment! The poster sounds like Janet Nappy!

[GingisK]

That’s a nice dream - we won’t wake you up.

Do you have some sort of proof that anything obtained in torture couldn't have been retrieved in some other way? I mean, without consulting those who enjoy the job?

[nufsed]

Which is the more moral stance? Or not doing everything you can to get the information and letting them die because you won't use torture?

[dforest]

The old bag just keeps digging a deeper hole.

This woman is certifiably insane. She needs to be ousted from her job.

[R0CK3T]

>>>Be careful what you condone, anything. good enough for the CIA is good enough for you local police department<<<

This goes too far.

Since you are lecturing on about morality, how does one SOO focused equate a citizen of the USA to that of a un-uniformed enemy combatant?

Un-uniformed enemy combatants have been deemed to be so vile that they do not even fall under the coverage of the Geneva Convention. Would your high minded idealism also then render the Geneva Convention as being immoral?

If you ask me, I find your point that attempts to compare a US Citizen and an un-uniformed enemy combatant (really a psychopathic mass murdering terrorist) to be immoral on its face.

Please spare me the holier than thou attitude, its unbecoming of a true Christian IMO.

[GingisK]

...God expects us to take care of the needy, the innocent, etc...

Unarmed and bound prisoners, aren't they "needy and innocent"? After all, they can't protect themselves. Combat is over for them. Then there are those who have been fed well, had plenty of rest, and ready to torture them.

Nothing like being able to bend your morality to fit your own needs, right?

[presently no screen name]

Tell that to your muslim friends - they enjoy slitting throats of the Americans.

[GingisK]

...Oh, you mean like in G Washington's army when they would set AWOL soldiers on a board(spread legs on the edge of a board, documented)for hours as punishment?...

I can't control the morals and behaviors of others, pasrticularly those who have been dead for some time. For the rest, I can only suggest you will stand before God to answer for your choices.

[nufsed]

It is reported that 3 terrorists were waterboarded in the last 8 years and that information was gathered which resulted in prevention of attacks here and Great Britain.

Was this immoral?

How many people did terrorists torture and what techniques did they use?

[nufsed]

Full text:

Which is the more moral stance?

Torturing a person who has knowledge about blowing up a bus load of school children, because the person will not talk, and saving 40 children, a teacher, and a bus driver.

Or not doing everything you can to get the information and letting them die because you won't use torture?

[GingisK]

Most everybody would agree, I expect, that torture merely for sport is abhorrent.

Odd, I see no one responding to my mention of chemicals that loosen the tongue. Those work without the torture. Am I to assume that our agencies are denied access to these substances, or that torture is the preferred method of enlightenment?

Thank you for your civil reply to me. I am, after all, voicing my moral assessment and hard-earned opinion.

[okie01]

Endowed by their Creator, true. But then assured by the Constitution.

Try again.

[GingisK]

It is reported that 3 terrorists were waterboarded in the last 8 years and that information was gathered which resulted in prevention of attacks here and Great Britain.

Reported by whom? Those that wish to justify the means? Was this PROVEN to work when chemical means failed?

[GingisK]

...But then assured by the Constitution...

Are you aware that the Constitution actually applies to everyone? Foreigners in our Nation can speak out, own firearms, etc, all the way through the Bill of Rights. You cannot possibly believe that the Founding Principles are only for US citizens? That document is one of the Lights of the World.

[presently no screen name]

I don't expect you to grasp this whole concept - with your mindset. Saying the terrorists are 'innocent'.

Go back to DU and on your way - hung your master Pelosi. You enjoy evil and hate America - you say the terrorists are innocent when they killed over 3,000+ INNOCENT Americas, destroyed our main financial district, business' gone, their children, parents, spouses, friends suffer.

God hates evil - we are not to embrace it like you are doing. These same terrorists you enjoy protecting and consider innocent hate Israel - the apple of God's eye! They are enemies of God - and you call them innocent.

Loosen your turban, it's cutting off circulation.

[nufsed]

The CIA and the administration. I forgot to give them lie detector tests.

You can squirm and avoid the issue all you want, but we're safer because we will go the extra step and the terrorists know it.

If you think it's immoral to save hundreds and thousands of lives while subjecting some suspect to temporray discomfort, I hope you're never in charge of my or my family's safety.

Your position is sanctimonious, not thought out, and unworkable against the fanatics who want to destroy us.

[TigersEye]

And Nancy Pelosi went "ree ree ree" all the way home.