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Palin Joining GOP Rebranding Group
Roll Call ^ | May 4, 2009 | Jackie Kucinich

Posted on 05/04/2009 10:27:57 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day

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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

P.S. the Bible doesn’t really talk about “weed,” but something tells me you might have had a little too much of it.


141 posted on 05/05/2009 12:38:27 AM PDT by farmer18th (If you preach "too big to let fail," you're also preaching "too small to let succeed.")
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To: farmer18th
Unkowning incest then. Your “point” is still pointless. Judah’s act was not endorsed by God, simply because Jesus was among his progeny, any more than David’s act of adultery was endorsed by God because Jesus was a son of David. You’re going to have to work very hard to turn fornication into a biblical virtue.

Still having trouble with those black words on the white page aren't we?

You are one of the reasons many Americans turn away from Christians. No one has ever claimed Judah's act was "endorsed" by God. I said "forgiven", a concept clearly alien to your thoughts.

142 posted on 05/05/2009 12:40:59 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: farmer18th

wwait a minute here.

I thought the church was a place where sinners should go. If you tried to keep all sinners out of church, a church mouse would not even make the cut.


143 posted on 05/05/2009 12:41:32 AM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (AMERICA WILL SURVIVE !)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

The church is also a place where believers read scripture. Read 1 Corinthians 5. Take it to heart.


144 posted on 05/05/2009 12:42:16 AM PDT by farmer18th (If you preach "too big to let fail," you're also preaching "too small to let succeed.")
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To: farmer18th
AFTER he won, and AFTER he refused Ford a co-presidency.

Yadda yadda... You claim that no Conservative should be (gasp!) seen on a stage or associating himself with Bush, Ford or Rockefeller (or whatever the name of the day). But when it's Reagan, it's a different thing... sure.

Reagan was more pragmatic than you give him credit for, and yes Bush was his Veep to have a "moderate balance".

BTW if you are so outraged over the Iraq war... what to make of Iran Contra, the support for Saddam vs. Iran, the support of the Mujahedin and the withdrawal from Lebanon?

Politics is nasty. Foreign politics is downright ugly. It's reality. You want to twist and bent everything to fit your argument.

Reagan was a magnificent President, but the double standard you apply on him, only in order to defend your indefendable arguments, is ridiculous.

145 posted on 05/05/2009 12:43:26 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to becomes slaves of Washington.")
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To: Choose Ye This Day

I think its probably a good thing she joined.

She now has a voice in where the party goes and maybe she can offset the the influences the “moderates” are asserting on the group - provided SHE is not so influenced.


146 posted on 05/05/2009 12:43:36 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (The only time I want a Republican reaching across the aisle is to smack a liberal.)
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To: farmer18th

Look, farmer, straw belongs in the back 40, not made into men to hurl mud at. Capisce?

Maybe you’ve just seen enough sickly zombie glad handing that you can’t imagine anything else happening with Sarah in the picture.

Let’s watch what happens. Sarah for all her visible or feared or imaginary faults is a cut above the country club party folks, and she does have Jesus Christ in her heart. The situation as we see it clearly needs more prayer than critique. Jesus Christ has overcome and Sarah has that overcoming power in her. Will she exercise it? My fervent prayer, which IMHO should be yours, is that she will, and bring many others, and in several senses the country, nearer to salvation in the process.


147 posted on 05/05/2009 12:43:51 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
And Sarah seems to be just the right size to ride that bad boy forth. Wipe off the cosmoline, add some fresh fuel, change the oil, and let’s go!

Ronald Reagan might use a combination John Deere tractor and Abrams (Caspar Weinberger pick up the red phone) armed with an SDI-inspired laser target designating satire gun--

148 posted on 05/05/2009 12:45:07 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: farmer18th

You have never read the Bible, else you’d be familiar with the concept of forgiving. BTW your obnoxious and arrogant attitude is doing Christianity a great disservice.


149 posted on 05/05/2009 12:45:10 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to becomes slaves of Washington.")
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To: CurlyDave

David’s act of adultery was punished, clearly, by God, even if spiritual forgiveness took place. David lost a child. Remember? Paul told Christians not to even eat with believers who were in gross sin. Do you have a problem with scripture itself, or does scripture describe a Godly reality that makes you uncomfortable?


150 posted on 05/05/2009 12:45:27 AM PDT by farmer18th (If you preach "too big to let fail," you're also preaching "too small to let succeed.")
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To: farmer18th

Interestingly enough the nearest term in the New Testament is pharmakia, which is universally translated as “sorcery” but clearly had the connotation of transcendent drug experiences.

No, it is not the unforgivable sin.


151 posted on 05/05/2009 12:45:54 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

To farmer everything is an unforgivable sin... except his own.


152 posted on 05/05/2009 12:46:40 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to becomes slaves of Washington.")
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To: farmer18th

you are an ass. you know that.

There is a nice old man who lives across the street. He is in his 60s. He is an atheist. I have tried to witness to him once or twice over the last couple of years, but he has a very negative view of christianity.

Do you know why he has a negative view of christianity ?

PEOPLE LIKE YOU....

I see why Mahatma Gahndi said..

“I like your christ, but I don’t like your christians, they are so unlike your christ”


153 posted on 05/05/2009 12:48:18 AM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (AMERICA WILL SURVIVE !)
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To: SolidWood
Reagan was indeed capable of striking a balance--but always, clearly, in his favor. Would you agree that we haven't been so fortunate with Romney, McCain, Rudy, Bush 1, Bush 2??

Nancy Reagan had a take on Reagan's character that is instructive. "He was comfortable in his own skin." I don't get that sense about the Bush family. I sense that they define their truths based on who attends the cocktail party.
154 posted on 05/05/2009 12:48:27 AM PDT by farmer18th (If you preach "too big to let fail," you're also preaching "too small to let succeed.")
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To: farmer18th

Let us pray for a best case situation, in which the Lord has a salutary effect upon them through Sarah, or through other circumstances, or both, and that Sarah does not ever idolize them.


155 posted on 05/05/2009 12:50:51 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

He probably has a negative view of Christianity because he’s what Jesus called in the gospel of John a “son of the devil.” Christ was far more negative than any of his servants. He promised not to bring peace—but a sword. Like it or leave it alone. You can’t get around the injunctions given in Matthew 18 or 1 Corinthian 5 or James. The Bible clearly states that we are to forgive, but that we are also—where appropriate—to disfellowship.


156 posted on 05/05/2009 12:51:28 AM PDT by farmer18th (If you preach "too big to let fail," you're also preaching "too small to let succeed.")
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To: farmer18th
Nice spin. I don't care about the Bush family and that wasn't part of my argument. I was calling you out for bashing Palin, for merely associating with a RNC organisation which Jeb Bush happens to be part of. You made a ridiculous assertion that Conservatives should have NOTHING to do with Bushes, Rockefellers and Fords... except for Reagan... then it's all fine.
157 posted on 05/05/2009 12:53:43 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to becomes slaves of Washington.")
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To: SolidWood

I won’t let that stand. I never claimed here, or anywhere, to be without sin, but failing to tell God’s truth would only compound that sin—not mitigate it.

..but as you keep reminding us—that’s not the topic of this thread.


158 posted on 05/05/2009 12:53:56 AM PDT by farmer18th (If you preach "too big to let fail," you're also preaching "too small to let succeed.")
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To: farmer18th

In practice, it just seems to make you a discernment-less carper.


159 posted on 05/05/2009 12:55:24 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: farmer18th
You keep talking about that... and I won't let that stand.

I never claimed here, or anywhere, to be without sin

Then stop bashing the Palin family and fellow Freepers for being not "perfectly godly" according to your (double) standards!

160 posted on 05/05/2009 12:56:31 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to becomes slaves of Washington.")
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