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Nigeria Resurrection of Maggie Sanger (Hillary Clinton and Planned Parenthood)
All Africa ^ | 4/14/09 | Sonnie Ekwowusi

Posted on 04/19/2009 9:41:38 AM PDT by wagglebee

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Margaret Sanger's concept of women liberation is completely alien to African culture and tradition. I strongly believe that Africans have no wish to embrace it. It depicts women as mere pleasurable instruments. For this reason, it is essential that Africans rejects the pressures from Mrs. Clinton and others to make Africa a dumping ground for all sorts of strange Margaret Sanger's pervasive ideas. Africa is for Africans. Margaret Sanger may resurrect in Houston, Texas, America, but, please, please, let Margaret Sanger not resurrect in Africa. We have our own values.

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1 posted on 04/19/2009 9:41:39 AM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 04/19/2009 9:42:22 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 04/19/2009 9:43:05 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Jeez... I can see it... a state visit from Hillary! And the first words out of her mouth... “Let’s kill some babies!”


4 posted on 04/19/2009 9:44:50 AM PDT by John123 (The US may be going down the drain, but everyone else will drown first...)
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To: wagglebee

This article repeats many falsehoods about Margaret Sanger.

Although she was a racist and eugenicist, Sanger did not anywhere in any of her writings or speeches advocate killing people (or abortion).

She advocated for contraception, involuntary contraception, sterilization, involuntary sterilization.

People would have much better case against this despicable person if they would stick to the facts about her. She was bad enough without making things up about her proposals.


5 posted on 04/19/2009 9:48:29 AM PDT by Lorianne
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Margaret Sanger was an alley cat she had sex with anyone from what I read..this could be why Hillary seems to relate with her..Hillary's husband is also an alley cat..Sanger was a racist and wanted to get rid of all blacks but you know the blacks still vote for democrats who love to kill babies..well let them keep voting and having abortions one day the Dem's will be extinct wiped off the face of the map if they keep murdering their babies..And they won't have a place in heaven so will be wondering in the lake of fire forever..
6 posted on 04/19/2009 9:50:06 AM PDT by PLD
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To: Lorianne
Although she was a racist and eugenicist, Sanger did not anywhere in any of her writings or speeches advocate killing people (or abortion).

Nonsense, her statement, "the most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it," is well documented.

Sanger may not have openly advocated abortion, but this is likely because she NEVER dreamed that America would legalize infanticide.

7 posted on 04/19/2009 9:52:42 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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"She argues that the skyrocketing maternal and infant mortality rates in the world, especially in developing countries, stem from denial of women access to abortion clinics, contraceptives and other reproductive rights.'

The verbal diarrhea in this sentence is astounding!

I'd like to know how abortion clinics, contraceptives, and morning after pills will lower infant mortality rates in developing countries.

8 posted on 04/19/2009 9:55:06 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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That comment is taken out of context. If you read it in context you will understand what she was talking about.


9 posted on 04/19/2009 9:56:13 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Very good point. I doubt that even Sanger had the courage to mention “abortion.” We 21st-centuryites forget that it was considered for millenia an abomination. Besides, as the Hippocratic oath makes undeniable, “safe,” effective abortions were always available; they simply weren’t “viable” options in CIVILIZED societies.


10 posted on 04/19/2009 10:03:29 AM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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She advocated for contraception, involuntary contraception, sterilization, involuntary sterilization. Don't you think the people she surrounded herself with speak toward what her values were?

Margaret Sanger appointed Lothrop Stoddard as a board member of the Birth Control League (the forerunner of Planned Parenthood). What did Stoddard think about Nazi eugenics? Author Stefan Kuhl writes:

"When the Nazis came to power", argued Stoddard, "they started to increase both the size and the quality of the population. They coupled initiatives designed to encourage "sound" citizens to reproduce with a "drastic curb of the defective elements." Stoddard personally witnessed how the Nazis were "weeding out the worst strains in the Germanic stock in a scientific and truly humanitarian way."

Seems to me agreeing with the way 'weeding out' undesirables the way Hitler did is advocating murder.

11 posted on 04/19/2009 10:08:01 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Lorianne

Can you post the context in which killing an infant is “understandable”?


13 posted on 04/19/2009 10:10:52 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Yes, Sanger did agree with ‘weeding out the undesirables”.

But the methods she proposed are NOT what the author of this article says. She is in error on that and it hurts her overall case, that Sanger is a bad person to be despised, which she is.


14 posted on 04/19/2009 10:13:49 AM PDT by Lorianne
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On more than one occasion, I have wish that both Bill Clinton’s mom and Hillary’s mom had practiced more birth control!!!

Think of how that would have changed America.

And we have Chelsea being groomed for public office!! GAG!


15 posted on 04/19/2009 10:17:11 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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http://www.bartleby.com/1013/5.html

In this chapter of her writing Sanger is talking about the burdens of large families on poor working class families. She is making the case that the stresses of supporting many children with little money causes many social ills, such as child labor, child prostitution, hunger, disease ... etc. She is making the case that many in this situation, faced with another mouth to feed (that the family cannot afford) is at risk for all these things, plus that families may be practicing infanticide as a means to prevent such suffering of their children. She has a graph showing that in larger families, the infant mortality rate jumps much higher in later births than in the earlier births, suggesting that there are nefarious reasons behind why this statistic.

She makes this point in the context of advocating for CONTRACEPTION, in order to avoid the evils she saw in society of her day (which included abortion, extreme poverty, child labor, prostitution ... especially among young girls, and suspected infanticide).

She used these social ills to further her own agenda, which was CONTRACEPTION.

http://www.bartleby.com/1013/10.html

In this section Sanger is advocating for contraception to PREVENT ABORTION. To make her case, she is presenting an argument that many poor immigrant women have no access to contraception and so must “submit to a humiliating, repulsive, painful and too often gravely dangerous operation” (abortion).

“I assert that the hundreds of thousands of abortions performed in America each year are a disgrace to civilization.” (Planned Parenthood doesn’t want you to know Sanger said that).

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If you are interested in presenting Sanger accurately, I urge you to read her complete writings, available on Bartleby.com. She was opposed to abortion, called it an ‘abominable act’ but claimed women were forced to it by desperation of poverty and exhaustion from and having too many children to take care of and being extremely poor. You have to realize poverty in her day is not like poverty in ours.

Yes, she also was a racist (as were many in her day) and got caught up in the Eugenist movement, which had become very popular ... promoted by many prominent people of her day ... even Presidents supported it.

But nowhere in her writing does she advocate infanticide, or abortion. In fact, she used the fact that these practices were already going on to make a case for CONTRACEPTION, which was illegal in her day. Even giving out information about sexual biology and human reproduction was illegal in her day.

You have to read Sanger in context of her writings and her time. Not doing so is like reading things our Founders wrote out of context of their time.

I’m not defending Sanger’s racism and eugenicism. But in the context of her time, these were popular ideas supported by many well know and respected people. We also know that many States instituted involuntary sterilization programs ... Sanger saw STERILIZATION as more humane than abortion,infanticide and extreme poverty caused by poor families children they could not take care of. She saw involuntary sterilization as a means to limit the ‘unfit’. But she did not advocate killing


16 posted on 04/19/2009 11:06:37 AM PDT by Lorianne
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I’m not defending Sanger’s racism and eugenicism. But in the context of her time, these were popular ideas supported by many well know and respected people.

And, "in the context of her time", Sanger KNEW that she could NEVER get abortion legalized and would probably face prison and lose the support of many of her allies if she even suggested it.

17 posted on 04/19/2009 11:10:51 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Yes, many prominent people of Sanger’s day, in the USA and in Europe, embraced Eugenics. It had become quite a mainstream idea.


18 posted on 04/19/2009 11:13:27 AM PDT by Lorianne
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There is no evidence she even considered it.

And she already faced prison for her advocacy of contraception.


19 posted on 04/19/2009 11:14:54 AM PDT by Lorianne
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MRS. SANGER GUILTY, FACES PRISON TERM
February 3, 1917
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9A01E7DD1538EE32A25750C0A9649C946696D6CF

Mrs. Margaret Sanger, birth control advocate, was convicted of violating the penal code in a decision handed down yesterday by Justices Freschi, Herrman and O’Keefe in Special Sessions in Brooklyn.


20 posted on 04/19/2009 11:20:03 AM PDT by Lorianne
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