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Not All Economists Agree(Obama spending your future earnings, if you won't)
Safe haven /Europacific Capital ^ | April 17, 2009 | by Peter Schiff

Posted on 04/17/2009 7:21:27 PM PDT by sickoflibs

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The Peter Schiff/Redistribution Watch Ping. (Washington Bankrupting our Nation by Spending your past, present and future money!)

If you realize both parties in Washington think our money is theirs and you trust them to do the wrong thing, this list is for you.

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1 posted on 04/17/2009 7:21:27 PM PDT by sickoflibs
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To: Harrius Magnus; mojitojoe; Pelham; mom2twinsn2; LongLiveTheRepublic; ConservativeOrBust; ...
The Peter Schiff/Redistribution Watch Ping. (Washington Bankrupting our Nation by Spending your past, present and future money!)

Sample: "If we are going to rebuild our economy on a solid foundation, the market, not the government, needs to draw the plans. When private citizens invest their own capital, those who invest wisely are rewarded with profits, while those who do not are punished with losses. Bad investments are therefore abandoned, with capital reallocated to more successful ventures. Conversely, when governments invest money, these checks and balances do not exist. There is nothing to correct bad investments, as losses are endlessly subsidized by taxpayers. In fact, the more a government plan fails, the more it tends to be funded in the hope that additional resources will finally achieve success. "

2 posted on 04/17/2009 7:25:39 PM PDT by sickoflibs (RNC Party Theme : "We may be socialists, but they are Marxists!")
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To: sickoflibs

I’m sure they told Obama at Harvard that we’re all Keynesians now. But we aren’t. Paul Krugman does not speak for the entire field.


3 posted on 04/17/2009 7:26:29 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: sickoflibs; Slings and Arrows; martin_fierro; MeekOneGOP; Daffynition; Allegra; restornu; ...

4 posted on 04/17/2009 7:35:04 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Communism - Hezbollah - Al Qaeda - Obama - Stone Age - CHAOS)
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To: Tublecane

There may be some truth to it. Look at the poor advice Republican economist give to their own leaders. Ppl like Art Laffer, Steve Forbes, Kudlow. Republicans to be sure, but they’re all crap at economics


5 posted on 04/17/2009 7:35:50 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: sickoflibs

This sound so much like Ronald Reagon’s Time of Choosing speech. “As more the government plan fails, the more the government plan”


6 posted on 04/17/2009 7:37:38 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: sickoflibs
Well it's official. The EPA has ruled (based on junk science) CO2 is DANGEROUS GAS and if Congress doesn't regulate it, they will!
This a BIG BLUFF on the part Polosi/Obama and the EPA. The last thing Polosi/Obama and the EPA want is a lawsuit against the EPA ruling and have return to the Supreme Court. Science and the facts are not on their side. CO2 does not drive the climate.
Polosi/Obama and the EPA need this CO2 cap and trade Scam in order to pay for their over spending
We better start sending a clear massage to Congress
NO CO2 TAX/CAP AND TRADE
NO CO2 REGULATIONS.
CO2 TAX/FEE = NEW TEA TAX!
7 posted on 04/17/2009 7:39:36 PM PDT by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: Tublecane

I don’t believe a word of this crap. If my household, my village, my county, or my state proposed to operate on such silly pills, I would oppose it. Where does Obamaitchkinovski get off with such communism, socialism, fascism and general ignoramusism? Is this an Ivy League disease? Is there a cure for this crap? Do highly educated people just automatically cash in whatever brains they might have had in their youth for the celebrity of degrees from what have become wealthy, but very peculiar, colleges and universities dedicated to reducing the bright and able to idiocy in only a few years?


8 posted on 04/17/2009 7:42:33 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: calcowgirl
Dont forget I am helping the left by making fun of Hannity and Levin

lonestar67 : “I am just pointing out that your arguments are sold out to the Democratic party and its radical Left Wing. I thought you would want to know. The Bush economy was quite good and there is precious little you can do to change that fact. I am personally thrilled that the tanking of the economy coincides with the emergence of Obama as the presumed leader of the nation. What we ought to wonder is what purpose is served by sickoflibs’ arguments.I argue that sickoflibs arguments serve the purpose of diminishing powerful conservative voices in favor of an anonymous internet voice.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2230877/posts?page=48#48

9 posted on 04/17/2009 7:46:21 PM PDT by sickoflibs (RNC Party Theme : "We may be socialists, but they are Marxists!")
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***If the government simply builds bridges to nowhere, society gains nothing.***

Don’t tell the Keynesians.


10 posted on 04/17/2009 7:50:05 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: 4rcane

Forbes is a businessman, not an economist. I don’t follow Kudlow, so I can’t speak to his latent Keynesianism. I can’t say what Laffer contributed policywise, but I’ve heard him speak since the meltdown, and have found him to be reliably free-market.

Not to say that there aren’t Keynesian Republicans. i’m sure they’re out there, and I’m sure they’re the ones that rose to the surface when Bush took power, like a bloated body in the Potomac.


11 posted on 04/17/2009 8:08:17 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: sickoflibs

Thanks for the ping.


12 posted on 04/17/2009 8:10:36 PM PDT by GOPJ (The New York Times can compress the most words into the smallest ideas of anyone- bow to Lincoln)
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To: djsherin

“Don’t tell the Keynesians.”

They already know, and don’t care. I’m pretty sure Keynes himself actually came out and said we could dig holes and fill them in, so long as money is spent.


13 posted on 04/17/2009 8:12:26 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: GOPJ

Why dont we have someone as articulate at Schiff in Republican(democrat light ) party.


14 posted on 04/17/2009 8:17:24 PM PDT by sickoflibs (RNC Party Theme : "We may be socialists, but they are Marxists!")
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To: Tublecane

Well, as they say go big or go home and that applies to flat out lying so why wouldn’t he say this? When the premise is to roll over the useful idiots with “facts” that they can then robotically repeat over and over again it doesn’t really matter much what the truth of the story is...

3 years, 9 months to go until we can come together as a conservative movement and vote out this lunacy!!


15 posted on 04/17/2009 9:10:05 PM PDT by phatus maximus ( John 6:29. Learn it, love it, live it.)
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To: sickoflibs

WWII got us out of the great depression, not Keynesian policies or the New Deal, they just prolonged it. Apparently we need WWV to get us out of this great recession.


16 posted on 04/17/2009 9:13:44 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: sickoflibs

Bambi can say it b ut we don’t gotta believe it...


17 posted on 04/17/2009 9:15:41 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

RE “Apparently we need WWV to get us out of this great recession.”

WWII We had a high savings rate and a low trade deficit and after the war world industry was destroyed except ours. Now we owe everyone and have only more debt to offer,


18 posted on 04/17/2009 9:21:06 PM PDT by sickoflibs (RNC Party Theme : "We may be socialists, but they are Marxists!")
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WWII We had a high savings rate and a low trade deficit and after the war world industry was destroyed except ours. Now we owe everyone and have only more debt to offer,

Now we owe everyone and have only more debt to offer... and have little industry, by comparison.

19 posted on 04/17/2009 10:01:41 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! (anyone want to join the movement? Chg your tagline!))
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To: phatus maximus

***3 years, 9 months to go until we can come together as a conservative movement and vote out this lunacy!!***

I’m planning a revolution well before then :)


20 posted on 04/17/2009 10:02:51 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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