Posted on 04/16/2009 4:43:30 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
Obama lies again... no surprise.
The DEA agent that testified under oath to congress about this, should be charged with perjury.
Most of these weapons are being smuggled from Central American countries or by sea, eluding U.S. and Mexican monitors who are focused on the smuggling of semiauto- matic and conventional weapons purchased from dealers in the U.S. Grenades or military-grade weapons have been reported in at least 10 Mexican states during the last six months, used against police headquarters, city halls, a U.S. consulate, TV stations and senior Mexican officials. The Mexican government said it has seized 2,239 grenades in the last two years, in contrast to 59 seized over the previous two years.
The enhanced weaponry represents a wide sampling from the international arms bazaar, with grenades and launchers produced by U.S., South Korean, Israeli, Spanish or former Soviet bloc manufacturers. Many had been sold legally to governments, including Mexico’s, and then were diverted onto the black market. Some may be sold directly to the traffickers by corrupt elements of national armies, authorities and experts say.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-mexico-arms-race15-2009mar15,0,229992.story
“Testimony from law enforcement officials concludes that, generally, military hardware is not flowing into Mexico from the United States.”
PROB More info updates at blogsite. http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/03/20/the-mexican-canard/
June 19, 2006
CARACAS, Venezuela — President Hugo Chavez’s plans to build the first Kalashnikov factory in the Western Hemisphere are sowing fears Venezuela could start arming leftist Latin American allies with the fabled Russian assault rifles.
Chavez denies such ambitions, saying his government bought 100,000 Russian-made AK-103 assault rifles and a license from Moscow to make Kalashnikovs and ammunition, to defend the nation against “the most powerful empire in history” — the United States.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,199982,00.html
There’s been some claims from the present Administration that US firearms are going south and fueling drug cartels’ wars. It is probably the case that some US handguns are being shipped south, but the serious armament of the cartels is now full-auto AK-47s, former Soviet RPGs, hand grenades and some American light antitank weapons. The sources of these are not gun shows or fun shops, but (1) central american countries such as Venezuela and the insurgent groups they support (2) the Mexican military itself (esp. the hand grenades) and (3) for the LAWs, thefts from American military bases. http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/2009/03/mexican_drug_ca.php
Dunno exactly, but if you do math like they do, it’s at least 90%.
Why have no dealers been arrested?
Why have no arms shipments to mex been intercepted?
Show us a single example of a full auto gun from the US siezed in mex.
Anyone with a brain can tell this is a lie. It makes no sense to get guns from the US when you can buy a shipload of full auto from china.
And most nitwits in Washington come from Kenya.
Obama a liar! Who knew?
/s
If they repeat it enough, the people who don’t do the research will believe it.9 out 0f 10?
Dirty stinkin’ lying dirtball Obama
The 17% figure would be true only if the totality of untraced guns were from places other than thwe US, but we have no idea were they come from. How many are from the US and how many from Europe? No one knows. American guns can be stripped of their serial numbers, too.
So I think Obama exaggerates but the 17 percenters exaggerate too.
Tonight, Major Garrett reports that Obama told Mexican reporter that he isn’t going for assault weapon ban because he can’t get it through Congress right now, with other things being a priority. But, he makes it clear he’ll eventually get to it.
...anything to blame America.
It will take this idiot a lot longer than 8 years to bring him up to speed; or to stop lying, whatever it takes. Distorting facts is actually better than lying...
It seems that 90% of the traceable weapons do come from the US.
Unfortunately, the "traceable" guns are just 10% of the total.
He just conveniently "forgot" that part of the story.
Uh huh...
Obama and his minions' assumption that the US populace are idiots is being proven out.
reduce unemployment
reduce health costs
reduce education costs
reduce government service costs
reduce crime
stop arms exports
et cetera!
simple enough - just try it and see!!!
LOL. Now that cracks me up. :)
What does your speculation, or your Obama talking points have to do with the numbers in the story? They are false.
In 2007-2008, according to ATF Special Agent William Newell, Mexico submitted 11,000 guns to the ATF for tracing. Close to 6,000 were successfully traced — and of those, 90 percent — 5,114 to be exact, according to testimony in Congress by William Hoover — were found to have come from the U.S.
But in those same two years, according to the Mexican government, 29,000 guns were recovered at crime scenes.
In other words, 68 percent of the guns that were recovered were never submitted for tracing. And when you weed out the roughly 6,000 guns that could not be traced from the remaining 32 percent, it means 83 percent of the guns found at crime scenes in Mexico could not be traced to the U.S.
So, if not from the U.S., where do they come from? There are a variety of sources:
— The Black Market. Mexico is a virtual arms bazaar, with fragmentation grenades from South Korea, AK-47s from China, and shoulder-fired rocket launchers from Spain, Israel and former Soviet bloc manufacturers.
— Russian crime organizations. Interpol says Russian Mafia groups such as Poldolskaya and Moscow-based Solntsevskaya are actively trafficking drugs and arms in Mexico.
- South America. During the late 1990s, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) established a clandestine arms smuggling and drug trafficking partnership with the Tijuana cartel, according to the Federal Research Division report from the Library of Congress.
— Asia. According to a 2006 Amnesty International Report, China has provided arms to countries in Asia, Africa and Latin America. Chinese assault weapons and Korean explosives have been recovered in Mexico.
— The Mexican Army. More than 150,000 soldiers deserted in the last six years, according to Mexican Congressman Robert Badillo. Many took their weapons with them, including the standard issue M-16 assault rifle made in Belgium.
— Guatemala. U.S. intelligence agencies say traffickers move immigrants, stolen cars, guns and drugs, including most of America’s cocaine, along the porous Mexican-Guatemalan border. On March 27, La Hora, a Guatemalan newspaper, reported that police seized 500 grenades and a load of AK-47s on the border. Police say the cache was transported by a Mexican drug cartel operating out of Ixcan, a border town.
Can you confirm that for me. I was under the impression it is one of their biggest competitors
So why did he say 90% if there is no factual support for that number?
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