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Pirates Take Revenge on U.S. Ship
Calgary Herald ^ | 4/15/09

Posted on 04/15/2009 4:29:24 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway

Send the Marines after these turds. And do it now.


21 posted on 04/15/2009 5:17:15 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Oh, those wacky Somali youths!

Of course the youts are just doing this for food

22 posted on 04/15/2009 5:23:34 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: nickcarraway
“This attack was the first against our prime target,” pirate commander Abdi Garad told AFP of the attack on the Liberty Sun late Tuesday. “We intended to destroy this American-flagged ship and the crew on board but unfortunately they narrowly escaped us.

Coming soon, to Abdi Garad's house ....


23 posted on 04/15/2009 5:31:36 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: nickcarraway

These are small boats with meager weapons that still require bases.

Where international resolve is concerned, this is the equivalant of the “$100 question”.

Unfortunately, we may have elected someone who thinks an elephant is bigger than the moon.


24 posted on 04/15/2009 5:32:44 PM PDT by E Rocc (One Big Assed Mistake, America.)
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To: Grimmy

It’s not a declaration of war. It’s a royal temper snit because Mr. Pirate’s life is becoming risky.


25 posted on 04/15/2009 5:43:05 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection of Christ.)
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To: KoRn
It would be one of the greatest days in the history of the internet!

How about a day long show of shock and awe? Live video from Predators as we blow one pirate ship after another out of the water. Clear out every likely pirate ship along the coast.

26 posted on 04/15/2009 5:53:51 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: nickcarraway

Three words:

DRIVE. BY. SHOOTING.


27 posted on 04/15/2009 6:04:19 PM PDT by DoorGunner ( "...and so, all Israel will be saved.")
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To: Right Wing Assault

If I’m driving a big container ship what would stop me from just running the pirates over?


28 posted on 04/15/2009 6:09:24 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: GAB-1955

“It’s not a declaration of war. It’s a royal temper snit because Mr. Pirate’s life is becoming risky.”

Yeah. Sure. The part where it is declared that there will be specific targeting of US ships, special effort to destroy those ships, and slaughter is meant for the crews of such ships...

Just boys being boys.

Lets do it all kindly, gently. Be nice to them. Or, at worst, treat it as an international police issue. That worked sooooooo well through the ‘90s, didn’t it?

Destroy them now, or pay massive price in pain, death and economic loss later. Every single episode of history in such issues, ancient and modern point exactly to that being the case.

No exceptions, except in the minds of the sniveling, weak, stupid and enemy lovers.


29 posted on 04/15/2009 6:25:20 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Neidermeyer
the fact that they don't attack from the front but from the side or stern
30 posted on 04/15/2009 6:33:05 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: Grimmy

I agree. I deny that these thugs can declare war.


31 posted on 04/15/2009 6:49:42 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection of Christ.)
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To: Neidermeyer
“If I’m driving a big container ship what would stop me from just running the pirates over?”
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The same thing that keeps an eighteen wheel truck rig from just running over a motorcycle, it's known as maneuverability.

32 posted on 04/15/2009 6:52:25 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Change has come to America and all hope is gone.)
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To: GAB-1955

“I deny that these thugs can declare war.”

I tend to disagree on that. Being at war is a mindset and a behavior. These particular scumbags may not be organized in the customary ways in which we, as Western Civilizationers tend to see things, but, their words and recent deeds identify them as having an At War posture.

The whole “Declaration of War” thing has been so morphed, twisted and trivialized in our society that real cause and effect are lost in heaping mounds of nonsense.

If we, as a nation, engaged those who take an At War stance against us properly, efficiently and aggressively, such stances would become real unpopular real fast. As it is currently done, our lack of full range, broad spectrum and aggressively lethal response only serves to encourage those who see us as weak enough to be worth preying upon.

Such weakness is as much a lure to predators as the stink of decayed flesh is to jackals and hyenas.


33 posted on 04/15/2009 7:01:23 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Neidermeyer

“If I’m driving a big container ship what would stop me from just running the pirates over?”

There’s also the potential to be the first ship crew to be kidnapped by Interpol and taken to The Hague to stand trial before the International Criminal Court.

You do not dare to be mean to the enemy. The ICC will get you for sure.


34 posted on 04/15/2009 7:03:55 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy

Yes, but you’re missing the point, not I. Being in state of war imposes obligations on both parties to fight according to a code of war. These seagoing criminals would pull out all the stops, but the laws of war would restrain us or force us into reprisal upon reprisal.

My way is simpler. They’re criminals and if they’re caught in the act of piracy can be killed. You can’t kill prisoners of war.


35 posted on 04/15/2009 7:07:43 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection of Christ.)
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To: GAB-1955

“Being in state of war imposes obligations on both parties to fight according to a code of war.”

Again, I disagree. The laws governing warfare in our culture and legal system, apply to all hostile confrontations between armed parties, regardless of what term the hostilities exist under for political purposes.

I do agree, at least in what I think is your implication, in that the laws of war are in desperate need of an overhaul. Too much of what is now in the books as law or rules concerning hostile engagements were designed by those who’s specific interest was in limiting the US in its ability to engage communist guerrillas during the cold war.

Everything 20th century euro or euroesques needs to be scrapped, dumped, banished and burned away. That is, if we ever want to end this current phase of the Caliphate Reborning without eventually having to resort to genocide.


36 posted on 04/15/2009 7:13:12 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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I heard a pastor being interviewed today, he says Somalia is a Muslim nation, i did’nt know that.


37 posted on 04/15/2009 7:21:31 PM PDT by BrianE (The Republican party may not exist 40 years from now-host Fred Flannigan WKRS 1220 am on Oct. of 04)
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To: nickcarraway

They admit its war. Then lets give them WAR!!!!


38 posted on 04/15/2009 8:44:11 PM PDT by packrat35 (You could make a fortune as a politician if you have the moral standards of a convicted pedophile)
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To: BrianE

Perhaps that explains why Obummer is handling these muslims with kid gloves!


39 posted on 04/15/2009 8:45:14 PM PDT by Yorktownpatriot (Greetings from Yorktown..the cradle of our Republic! Let's keep it!)
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To: nickcarraway

why have we spent billions on US Navy, with many vessels nearby in Middle East, and we can’t take out a few criminals in speedboats?

this is not a risky mission. no risk of igniting a larger conflict, no helipcopter rides in the middle of mogadishu, just a few hundred criminals operating from well established ports.

at this point every boat should have marines from their home country aboard, with backup ships in the region. and shoot to kill orders.


40 posted on 04/16/2009 12:02:44 AM PDT by KingofZion
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