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Art as Propaganda for Evolution
CEH ^ | April 10, 2009

Posted on 04/11/2009 9:21:02 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

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To: tacticalogic
To a degree, yes. Showing Jesus and the disciples sitting at a table for the last supper is a bit silly despite the stature of the artist.

However making a painting of Jesus when his exact appearance is not known is less bothersome since it's not to illustrate his appearance but his presence in the scene.
Other religious painting might contain anachronisms deliberately placed due to the style of the times and no one mistakes the intention of the artist or his work, the desire to explain a historical event in a more modern setting.

Quite a bit different are illustrations where appearance/shape/form IS the story. When a feathered dinosaur is shown in a drawing it is the possession and placement of the feathers on a particular animal that is being touted as fact by means of the illustration.

When a caveman is shown dark skinned and naked it these qualities that being offered as a picture of a very likely reality.

That's deceptive and propaganda.

41 posted on 04/11/2009 12:30:12 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: tacticalogic

It was understood then and it is understood now that the Creation painting uses symbolism to illustrate concepts that cannot be shown literally, God with a long white beard, (a father of mature wisdom, worthy of respect), vs. Adam beardless (inexperienced, child-like innocence).

Using this painting to show how clean a shave Adam had in a razor blade commercial, say, would be quite the contrary.

Really and truly, You do grasp how symbolism is used, yes?


42 posted on 04/11/2009 1:09:00 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GodGunsGuts; metmom; tacticalogic
You don't have to defend what you're saying if you never really said anything.

Absolutely a riot coming from one who never says a thing!

43 posted on 04/11/2009 7:20:07 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tacticalogic; metmom; GodGunsGuts

Well good, that settles it then. I came right out and said that Haekel was a full-on racist.-GGG

That’s fine.

Do you agree with the author’s assesment that the use of images is used to evoke an emotional response, rather than present a reasoned argument?


Conversely, evos utilize images to propogate their propoganda, while stomping on reaoned arguments AND elicit an emotional response, like Sarah Palin riding a dinosaur comes to mind.


44 posted on 04/11/2009 7:28:22 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: GodGunsGuts

So then where is the photo showing the embryos of these animals at these stages to show that they are not similar?

All you do is state they are fake. Where is the proof that they are fake? Just because you say so?

There is a very good exhibit of all the stages of human development at the Museum of Science & Industry in Chicago. Before you complain, they were all from miscarriages (as stated clearly in the exhibit)


45 posted on 04/11/2009 8:38:48 PM PDT by Wacka
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


46 posted on 04/11/2009 10:14:47 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: count-your-change; tpanther; metmom; GodGunsGuts

When explanations start coming out that tortured, or questions only get answered with personal attacks and insults then something went wrong further up stream.


47 posted on 04/13/2009 9:04:28 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Indeed.


48 posted on 04/13/2009 11:29:54 AM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
Indeed.

Now the question is, what went wrong that's causing the personal attacks and insults?

49 posted on 04/13/2009 1:10:12 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
Ahhh....you've lost me with the deep subtlety of your comment.
50 posted on 04/13/2009 1:31:23 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Ahhh....you’ve lost me with the deep subtlety of your comment.


hehe...the personal attacks were in place when I showed up but not how tacticalogic wants to pretend.


51 posted on 04/13/2009 2:26:37 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
hehe...the personal attacks were in place when I showed up but not how tacticalogic wants to pretend.

None of them were mine.

52 posted on 04/13/2009 2:53:43 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tpanther
For a list of acceptable insults, personal attack remarks, slurs, put-downs, inflammatory asides and generally snide comments please see the Mods and they will supply you forthwith.

But be advised that overuse will reduce the Total Insult Value by at least 30%.

53 posted on 04/13/2009 3:25:18 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: tacticalogic

But which ones get a free pass and which one’s cause you grief?


54 posted on 04/13/2009 3:33:33 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
But which ones get a free pass and which one’s cause you grief?

I tend to pay more attention to comments that are addressed to me. I don't think that's unusual.

55 posted on 04/13/2009 3:40:26 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: count-your-change
Ahhh....you've lost me with the deep subtlety of your comment.

You lost me with the deep subtleties of you explanations. You seem to have found a distinction without a difference.

56 posted on 04/13/2009 3:58:30 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Evolutionist, Darwinist, Temple of Darwinism, Fabulist. I see what you mean: all distinctions without difference.


57 posted on 04/13/2009 4:32:11 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
Evolutionist, Darwinist, Temple of Darwinism, Fabulist. I see what you mean: all distinctions without difference.

Did you have any interest in discussing the use of art and imagery as propaganda?

58 posted on 04/13/2009 4:37:55 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GodGunsGuts


I'm crestfallen.
59 posted on 04/13/2009 4:47:28 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: tacticalogic

My interest is in the subject of the posted article, Art as Propaganda for Evolution.
If you’d like to join in instead of vague efforts to make the article about religious images (”Do you have the same objections to religious imagery?), etc., why, just go ahead.


60 posted on 04/13/2009 5:07:12 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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