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Paralyzed roofer's case raises legal debate over rights of illegal immigrants hurt on job
TCPalm.com ^ | April 10, 2009 | Hillary Copsey, Ryan Deering

Posted on 04/10/2009 7:54:07 PM PDT by Inappropriate Laughter

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“His brother, Ivan — also in the U.S. illegally — visits on weekends off work. Leon’s grandmother, the only family member with a passport, has visited from Monterrey, Mexico. Leon doesn’t return to Monterrey because he isn’t sure his family can provide the medical care he needs.”

Amazing how being ILLEGAL is something to be proud of.

Why doesn’t family step in and take him home?
It’s tiem he returned to Mexico and had family care for him.


21 posted on 04/10/2009 8:39:15 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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“Leon worked first under a fake Social Security number, then procured a real number under a fake name — Jesse James Craig. Hastings and Leon allege Altec knew about — and helped get around — his, Ivan’s and other workers’ illegal status, pointing to W-2 forms that show Ivan worked for Altec under three different names.”

Breaks our laws AGAIN and still presents this sob story.

Amazing!


22 posted on 04/10/2009 8:40:25 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Inappropriate Laughter
Let this be incentive to come here LEGALLY.

“A civil court judge ruled Altec did not owe Leon anything for negligence, citing a precedent case that gives an employer legal immunity when they provide workers’ compensation. But Altec denied Leon workers’ compensation because of his illegal status.”

As it should be DENIED.

“This guy paid taxes. He paid higher taxes than me,” Hastings said. “But now, no one wants to help him.”

He should have gotten in line and come here LEGALLY. I doubt that he paid taxes. Under which of the three names did he pay these “taxes”? If he was paid so well, why isn't he paying his medical bills or purchase his own medical insurance?

“Companies shouldn't be hiring illegal immigrants in the first place, said former state Rep. Gayle Harrell, R-Port St. Lucie. But even if the employer knew the worker was illegal, Harrell said that doesn't entitle an injured worker — already breaking the law — to benefits.”

Correct!

he comes here illegally. Uses a fake social security number under three different names and now wants tax payers to have him compensated for LEGAL BENEFITS to a LEGAL CITIZEN? Amazing how arrogant people are.

“I don't think we should give any rights to illegals to start with,” said Harrell, who made stopping illegal immigration her top issue when she campaigned for U.S. House District 16. “You've got all these contractors out of work. We should be hiring legal workers, not illegal ones. These contractors could avoid all these sticky lawsuits.”

23 posted on 04/10/2009 8:44:34 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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"Illegal people can't have no rights, man, and I don't know why," Leon said. "I mean, we're just humans."

A criminal is a criminal Leon. Your only "right" as an illegal insurgent criminal invader of this country is prosecution. Stop sucking off of our medical system.

Go back to your home country and have them take care of you.

And take your illegal relatives with you to take care of you in the tropical paradise of Mexico.

24 posted on 04/10/2009 8:46:34 PM PDT by Syncro (Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat)
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To: Zhang Fei
You need to take the INCENTIVE out of people coming to work here ILLEGALLY. That starts with the employer. FINE them to stop hiring ILLEGALS. Illegals won't be coming here to take LEGAL American jobs if EMPLOYERS have NO INCENTIVE to hire them.

Make it also less attractive to ILLEGALS in giving them NO LEGAL RECOURSE for workman's comp or any other benefits.

25 posted on 04/10/2009 8:47:19 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Syncro

I agree.

No tears shed here.

THIS is what is also helping to destroy out country.

He could have used all that effort to come here LEGALLY. He didn’t. He continued to break more of our laws and in essence thumb his nose at LEGAL CITIZENS. Now that he has some tough times ... he’s presented as a sob story.


26 posted on 04/10/2009 8:49:17 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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“I’ll bet $50 that he was getting paid under the table. And the cretin still thinks he is entitled to workman’s comp.”

Of course he was!

Employers win bids with CHEAP labor.

The entitlement mentality with a sob story really Ike's me.

27 posted on 04/10/2009 8:50:29 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh
Know first hand what the hiring of illegals can do to the construction industry.
28 posted on 04/10/2009 8:52:01 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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I already know.

They've taken over painting, roofing, waitering, retail jobs, fast food cashiers and landscaping among other occupations formally held by LEGAL Americans.

29 posted on 04/10/2009 8:53:53 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: cripplecreek

Workers compensation laws vary from state to state. In Wisconsin, workers, legal and illegal, collect benefits and get their medicals paid by the employer’s WC insurance carrier. With this fact situation in WI, the carrier could lessen the benefits 15% if the worker’s use of cocaine or alcohol was casual to the accident, but the carrier bears the burden of proof of cause.

This employer violated federal law by hiring a person it knew to be an illegal as the employer filed several forms with different names on this worker. The federal law violation is just a fine and many employers feel it’s just a cost of doing business and like that illegals work for lower wages. Omama wants to overlook illegals as he expects them to vote for him even though their votes are not lawful.


30 posted on 04/10/2009 8:57:08 PM PDT by RicocheT
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To: Inappropriate Laughter; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...

Poor Leon...he took his chances....Ping!


31 posted on 04/10/2009 9:02:10 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: Inappropriate Laughter

” “He’s in a place where basically the American government is saying, ‘Go die somewhere.’ “

We need billboards across the countrey with that message on them!

TURN IN EMPLOYERs IF YOU KNOW THEY ARE HIRING ILLEGALS, THE IRS IS PAYING FINDERS FEES FOR TURNING THEM IN!!!!


32 posted on 04/10/2009 9:23:28 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Zhang Fei

“it’s human nature for poor people to want to better their lot.”

We need a bounty on them, dead or alive!!

Go through the proper procedure, wait your turn and come here legally!!!


33 posted on 04/10/2009 9:25:36 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Chet 99

“In Kaleefornia, illegals are entitled to recover full work comp benefits as well as sue for damages in civil court”

Not only that they are entitled to full welfare benefits immediatly where citizens have a hard time qualifying, thank you Gray Davis!


34 posted on 04/10/2009 9:28:05 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Inappropriate Laughter

If it were up to ne this guy gets taken the border and pushed across into Mexico


35 posted on 04/10/2009 9:30:28 PM PDT by dennisw (0gabe our very own Kenyan subprime president)
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"This guy paid taxes. He paid higher taxes than me," Hastings said.

He earned his money illegally. He paid taxes on ill gotten gains.

36 posted on 04/10/2009 9:47:15 PM PDT by Isabel C.
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I say give him the same care an American in Mexico would receive, which is NOTHING!

Does this make me cold? Quite frankly, I don’t care. We’ll never solve this problem by being weak.


37 posted on 04/10/2009 10:24:45 PM PDT by packrat35 (You could make a fortune as a politician if you have the moral standards of a convicted pedophile)
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To: Inappropriate Laughter

Four years ago I broke my leg. I have no children and I am single. The only help I got was food stamps and emergency aid for 1 months rent and 1 months electricity. Lucky for me I had students loans starting in September. The break occurred on July 4. Without student loans I would’ve been homeless. I was born in Idaho. I’ve paid taxes since I was 15. I was 47 when this happened. I got very little help. Why should an illegal get any?


38 posted on 04/10/2009 10:38:16 PM PDT by BruceysMom (Where knowledge is folly.......)
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To: al baby

I don’t think there is a roofing company in Florida that doesn’t have illegals.

What would be required to hire and keep legal roofers, you would never, ever get a roof.

Everything, save union jobs, is by the price. On a $70k roof bid and you are over the other guy by $50, he gets the job.


39 posted on 04/11/2009 12:05:37 AM PDT by Leisler ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged."~G.K. Chesterton)
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"This guy paid taxes. He paid higher taxes than me," Hastings (Leon's lawyer) said. "But now, no one wants to help him."

Why should anyone? Also, how many here believe that this lawyer paid less taxes than a laborer? Or, is he cheating on them?

40 posted on 04/11/2009 3:43:13 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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