We conservatives need to calm down

Chicago Sun Times ^ | 04/06/09 | DAVID HOROWITZ

[JasonC]

Humor? The bunch pretending Obama is the antichrist are the most humorless sods imaginable.

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

Are there many of these nutjobs with these "crapstorms" close to you?

I don't think you can actually catch it just by being touched by them. It's not like Herpes either. If the feeling of fear and uncomfortableness persists for more than few days it might be worth looking into. What is it the people talking about the Antichrist and Obama have told you? (I haven't heard this one actually).

Fox News: Leftists planning to destroy "tea party demonstrations" from within

[HotLead61]

You know Pat Robertson? In what sense, like, have you met him & conversed with him?

Man, are you ever over-generalizing. You mentioned Jonah in an earlier post. Would that be the Biblical Jonah, or pardon my ignorance, maybe I missed who you meant. If it is the Jonah I think it is, why would you call another portion of Scripture "BS"?

No need to resort to the name-calling. You're certainly one to be speaking of others as being "besmirched" because they call other people names!

[HotLead61]

I meant WITHOUT getting any bailout funds. I am paying attention.

[HotLead61]

You will find it a slow business praying your opponents out of the White House. Hell will freeze over first.

Never said anything about that. Stick to the issues I raised.

[tarheelswamprat]

Godwin's Avenger. You just lost this argument, the author is right.

No, JasonC, you just demonstrated that your comprehension of Godwin's Law is flawed and your attempted application of it in this thread is incorrect.

Godwin's Law states: "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1." It is a statistical observation of a Usenet(and now Internet) discussion phenomenon. It makes no judgment about the validity or truth of the analogy in a particular argument.

The fact that a fallacious "tradition" has arisen in online discussion fora that the mere mention of a Nazi comparison automatically loses the argument is merely a tactic adopted by dishonest or incompetent protagonists as a mechanism to forestall debate and evade having to actually demonstrate whether or not the analogy is valid for the particular topic under discussion.

Mike Godwin himself acknowledged that making the Nazi allusion did not automatically void or discredit the argument, and he clearly stated that he formulated Godwin's Law in order to discourage or minimize the trivializing effect its over usage would have on substantive debate.

Whether Horowitz' premise and argument has merit is certainly debatable, but even the creator of Godwin's Law himself would laugh at your speciously clumsy attempt to avoid making your case. You're no Godwin's Avenger - you're more like Godwin's Mangler... /grin

[JasonC]

They simply give my political movement a bad name, obstruct sound policy, and lay the seeds of future electoral defeat. I want them to stop, it is in their own best interests to stop, and to aim better. The blind flailing partisan populism of the hour is stupid on stilts and I am able to see as much. That is all.

[JasonC]

I said "read", didn't I?

Jonah Goldberg is a modern writer who tried to turn the reductio ad Hitler argument on its usual slingers ("Liberal Fascism" is the book, I assumed everyone knows this etc). While he is nuanced about it, those who caught up the idea are not, and have become as silly as those he was wittily denouncing.

[JasonC]

The issues you raised are that you are nuttier than a fruitcake and actually believe Obama is the secret foretold son of Satan come to usher in the last days. I don't need to argue anything with you; merely pointing this out to bystanders is quite sufficient to make my entire case.

[JasonC]

If that wasn't transparent, you are my witless foil, that is all.

[JasonC]

I didn't cite the law, I cited the avenger. Look it up. What any individual thinks about usenet is irrelevant, everyone who was actually there knows the avenger and what it means.

[JasonC]

Not to the GM bankrupcty, apparently...

[HotLead61]

I apologize for hurrying through your sentence structure. But you still used the “fruitcake” label, after castigating others for calling Horowitz derogatory names. How does that add up?

[Palladin]

Sounds like Horowitz has become an appeaser.

Guess he wants to stay on the right side of the ovens.

[JasonC]

Calling you a traditional holiday desert isn't an insult, it is the purest possible charity. Trust me.

[JasonC]

Nope, no hyperbole here, nosireebob... (s/c)

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

Not all of it is stupid.

Mind-changing Books(Thomas Sowell)

Check it out.
There are intelligent ways to understand the statism of Obama and his movement.

On praying, you know, we prayed when President Kennedy was assassinated. We prayed for our country. And we prayed again during the Vietnam War. And when the abortion movement began changing American culture for the worse. It may have taken a long time, but we ELECTED Reagan president in 1980. And he was a GREAT president.

The last time I was ever on a street corner we were all cheering and applauding Reagan. Conservatives have to recapture that. They have to get back on offense and get their A game going again. This is who we are. America is a conservative and Christian country. Never forget it.

Get the documentary Ronald Reagan:Rendezvous with Destiny. Watch it.

[HotLead61]

Your personal attacks & avoidance of the issues tells me that you could possibly be a God-hater. What has HE Himself ever done to hurt you?

What you're "pointing out" is your extreme tendencies to jump to conclusions, put words in other people's mouths, and to stray from the subjects of conversations that make you uncomfortable...all the while calling out names to obfuscate the meat of the issues.

You'll notice that I haven't, nor will I, call you unintelligent, beacuse it's obvious to me that you've got IQ in abundance. Just be intellectually honest & quit jumping around so you can impugn me & others who may happen to agree with me.

[HotLead61]

So you’re saying they haven’t received any funds from the government?

[JasonC]

lol - you simply don't have any idea who you are talking to. Hint, 70,000 posts on FR over 9 years. Hint, not only read everything you can point to but taught half of it as well. There are indeed intelligent ways to be critical of this administration, but *calling them Nazis isn't one of them*.