Posted on 04/01/2009 10:38:11 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Well that's just it, liberals can't argue on the basis of the science, instead they employ endless projections and strawmen and other PC lunacy.
That is the path to salvation to be sure.
But look here:
http://asvbible.com/genesis/1.htm
6.And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day.
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, Let the earth put forth grass, herbs yielding seed, and fruit-trees bearing fruit after their kind, wherein is the seed thereof, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, herbs yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit, wherein is the seed thereof, after their kind: and God saw that it was good.
GENESIS 6-12 describes the creation of the seas end the eventual introduction of plants to the land. These passages are almost identical to Evolutionary description of the succession of plants. Creation answers why God did it - science only seeks to understand how things worked.
Don’t be afraid of evolution as God’s toolkit.
One problem with this supposition: In the time of Noah, there were supposed to be plenty of people in the world (of which only Noah's family were saved). If all fossils come from a catastrophic event WHERE ARE THE HUMAN SKELETONS?
One would expect to find at least one human skeleton mixed in with the strata containing dinosaur skeletons. We don't.
That guy Jesus, gee he disagrees with you, no matter the Bible is only a fabrication of some deluded believers.
Exactly. Same for testable, verifiable, predictable, falsifiable and so on...
Because I don't know of any lawsuits surrounding string, membrane or multiverse theory. Liberals only get uptight about their myriad insecurities with God and any threat, criticism or serious "peer review" of their cult.
You’d think so, particularly considering if they can duplicate the conditions that produced those results, they should also be able to duplicate the conditions that turn organic matter into petroleum in a relatively short time.
Speaking of results and “duplicating conditions” and tweaking and intelligence and design in labs:
As a chemist, the most fascinating issue for me revolves around the origin of life. Before life began, there was no biology, only chemistry – and chemistry is the same for all time. What works (or not) today, worked (or not) back in the beginning. So, our ideas about what happened on Earth prior to the emergence of life are eminently testable in the lab. And what we have seen thus far when the reactions are left unguided as they would be in the natural world is not much. Indeed, the decomposition reactions and competing reactions out distance the synthetic reactions by far. It is only when an intelligent agent (such as a scientist or graduate student) intervenes and “tweaks” the reactions conditions “just right” do we see any progress at all, and even then it is still quite limited and very far from where we need to get. Thus, it is the very chemistry that speaks of a need for something more than just time and chance. And whether that be simply a highly specified set of initial conditions (fine-tuning) or some form of continual guidance until life ultimately emerges is still unknown. But what we do know is the random chemical reactions are both woefully insufficient and are often working against the pathways needed to succeed. For these reasons I have serious doubts about whether the current Darwinian paradigm will ever make additional progress in this area.
Edward Peltzer
Ph.D. Oceanography, University of California, San Diego (Scripps Institute)
Associate Editor, Marine Chemistry
As stated in regard to this quote in other threads: primacy and evolution are completely different subjects.
Actually it’s not about standards of creationists, but the “standards” imposed by godless liberals that they have no plans in meeting themselves.
Except of course when it comes to evolution.
“Say’s you and others who would corrupt the Bible. Evolution isn’t really even compatible with logic, much less God’s Word.”
So, let’s be honest here - He’s going to hell, isn’t he for believing in evolution.
“That guy Jesus, gee he disagrees with you, no matter the Bible is only a fabrication of some deluded believers. “
So, if you believe in evolution, you can’t be Christian, right?
The organism wasn’t preserved, the imprint it made was.
“Say’s you and others who would corrupt the Bible. Evolution isn’t really even compatible with logic, much less God’s Word.”
It must be tough to face each new day, pining for the Inquisition, bemoaning the Enlightenment...
“So, what about the content of the article?”
You really don’t need to read Mr. Brian Thomas M.S. articles.
They all follow the same pattern (as do most creationist articles) - make a strong opening statement (or title) fail to substantiate it, and then conclude with “It’s in the Bible”.
That said, I read it, and like every article Mr. Brian Thomas, M.S. writes, it’s complete nonsense. But it’s too much to presume GGG wouldn’t post it on FR just because it’s nonsense.
Diffeent subjects but evolution is entirely dependent on origins.
Evolution can only occur after genesis. Although dependent, evolution is not reliant on any particular explanation of primacy since it is only meant to describe transformative, not creative process.
Hope you are well.
Please see my last comment. Primacy is undetermined. I state that God could surely have been instrumental as engineer of the evolutionary process. Is that my scientific opinion? No. It’s not science but a process of bringing my belief that regardless of how - life happened.
People have tried to convince me of the parallels before but I’d say that’s just due to God being in the subconsciousness of the inventors of that doctrine, or rather the Inventor of that doctrine.
The Bible clearly teaches that Adam was a real person. He’s in the lineage of Christ and the Holy Spirit in Luke takes us from Christ all the way to Adam. Evolution has folks dying before Adam but God says, throughout His Word but specifically in Romans 5 and 6, Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
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