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Barack Obama: Pied Piper of the Plethos
March 30, 2009 | Jean F. Drew

Posted on 03/30/2009 9:51:43 AM PDT by betty boop

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To: spirited irish; joanie-f; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; marron; hosepipe

In Cultural Marxism, I wrote about Georg Lukacs of the Frankfurt School. He forced sexual perversion onto Poland’s children in order to ‘unmake’ their Christian spiritual progress, thereby reducing and/or reverting them
back to their natural state.

We most generally speak of the destruction of the West. It would be more correct to speak of its’ ‘unmaking’ by way of black magic.


It’s little known or understood that Moscow first and then the ACLU as their expeditionary arm later, made a COMMANDMENT of the idea of fostering sexual perversion upon America as part of an “influence operation” that is now quite obviously taking deep root what with the “legitimacy” of pornography, gay marriage, subsidized abortion, etc.

What a remarkable thing it is that we defeated the makers of the virus but are now doomed by its very persistence in the air we breathe.


41 posted on 03/31/2009 4:58:45 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: betty boop
Thank you oh so very much for the outstanding comparison between Obama and Palin, dearest sister in Christ!

I agree that the message needs to be reduced to just a few words, easy to remember and rally behind, and should be directed to the middle class.

All I've come up with so far is: "It's my money."

That would be for the bumper stickers, signs, campaign buttons - and the inverse for the actual campaign vehicles, "It's your money."

I was trying to think of something that would make it personal. "Life" could be substituted for "money" on nanny-state issues, etc.

My wording is dumb, but I'd like to see something on that order.

42 posted on 03/31/2009 9:03:14 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop

Yes, but in a society where the σπουδαῖος is stigmatized as relying on Dead White Western males, there will be prohibitions on ἀρετή , εὐδαιμονία , λόγος. Those who follow the gnosis of Alinskyism will mislead "the mass of passionately directed people who are more or less illiterate and who do not know what they are doing." It will even be forbidden to study the remedies in colleges and universities. As we can observe all too well today.

""...die Eule der Minerva beginnt erst mit der einbrechenden Dämmerung ihren Flug."

43 posted on 03/31/2009 9:12:16 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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It will even be forbidden to study the remedies in colleges and universities. As we can observe all too well today.

Prohibitions on studying what remedies? [I can guess, but I'd rather you tell me.]

Your post seems a tad hyperbolic to me, HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity. But thank you for writing.

44 posted on 03/31/2009 10:43:17 PM PDT by betty boop (All truthful knowledge begins and ends in experience. — Albert Einstein)
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To: PaleoBob
He doesn’t really even bother much to conceal any of this.

IMHO, his arrogance and narcissism have no bounds.

Thank you for your excellent insights, PaleoBob!

45 posted on 03/31/2009 11:12:00 PM PDT by betty boop (All truthful knowledge begins and ends in experience. — Albert Einstein)
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To: betty boop

ὑπερβολή? Surely, you jest, Spoudaios.

Coincidentally, we were discussing the application of the Pied Piper of Hamelin to Obama just a few days ago on another thread:The Burgers of Schilda: Barack Obama is not who we thought he was. Just a lucky coincidence of similar ideas, oddly enough, following the discussion of folktales. Class divisions came up there as well. Obama and the Alinskyites have a different idea of φύσις as well as reason. Another footnote to that effect certainly would not hurt the argument. Perhaps even reviving reason in the classic sense. It should still be there. Friday, March 27, 2009. But Obama's apocalypse is just starting. He's even quoting Joachim of Fiore.

46 posted on 04/01/2009 12:11:57 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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snip..What a remarkable thing it is that we defeated the makers of the virus but are now doomed by its very persistence in the air we breathe

Spirited: Indeed. And the fact that the ‘virus’ of moral corruption deeply infects our culture gives witness to another fact: mankind really is fallen. If man is ‘born good,’ as Enlightenment progressives claim, it would not be possible to tempt and stealthily lead him into a miserable state of corruption. Nor would it be possible to “unleash the devil’ in mankind, as Bakunin professed.

This leads us to another truth: progressivism-—used here as an umbrella term for Marxism, etc.-— is a system of lies. Man lies; he lies to himself, and he lies to others.

Orwell had to invent terms such as ‘doublespeak’ in order to describe the progressive canon, a matrix of small lies, Big Lies, cleverly crafted deceptions, and so on.


47 posted on 04/01/2009 4:56:00 AM PDT by spirited irish
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To: betty boop

Obama was elected by STUPID KIDS.


48 posted on 04/01/2009 5:14:33 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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Thank you so very much for sharing your insights, dear spirited irish!
49 posted on 04/01/2009 7:30:02 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Obama and the Alinskyites have a different idea of φύσις [phusis, nature] as well as reason.

Thanks for the link to "The Burgers of Schilda: Barack Obama is not who we thought he was" HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity! I missed that one. I'll go take a look.

RE: the above itals: what is your impression of how Obama/Alinsky regard nature and reason? It certainly isn't "classical." Obama is actually quoting Joachim of Fiore? I didn't realize that. Something to look into....

Thank you ever so much for writing, HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity, and for the link! I'll go check it out now.

50 posted on 04/01/2009 10:48:48 AM PDT by betty boop (All truthful knowledge begins and ends in experience. — Albert Einstein)
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He's even quoting Joachim of Fiore.

Can you give me a cite for this HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity?

It's astonishing to me that BHO has read Joachim of Fiore. If he has, it seems he has been highly selective in his use of Joachim's ideas. I can understand the attraction for Obama of the dux and Third Realm ideas. But Joachim's Third Realm is dominated by the perfect contemplative life of the monk — a sort of "counterworld" of solidarity, simplicity, poverty, and working discipline. That is, it's made up of a religious elite. One thing America seems pretty short of these days is contemplative monks. And Obama makes for a very strange pope.

Do you suppose Obama really thinks that he's "liberating people" from the social forms of a dying age? If so, liberating them for what?

Rather it appears to me that Obama isn't liberating anybody at all. He's softening them up to accept a form of slavery that leaves no room for the dignity (and weaknesses) of individual man, nor any appreciation for the diversity and variety of man's natural gifts.

51 posted on 04/01/2009 12:42:54 PM PDT by betty boop (All truthful knowledge begins and ends in experience. — Albert Einstein)
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Do you suppose Obama really thinks that he's "liberating people" from the social forms of a dying age?

I suspect he does. His theological roots are Black Liberation Theology - wherein social liberation is more hallowed than God. Or to put it another way, the doctrine puts love of neighbor above love of God.

Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dearest sister in Christ!

52 posted on 04/01/2009 12:49:49 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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His theological roots are Black Liberation Theology - wherein social liberation is more hallowed than God. Or to put it another way, the doctrine puts love of neighbor above love of God.

But again, liberation for what? (We know the "from what" part — excellence, goodness, virtue, and reason.) Plus it seems to me that a doctrine that puts neighbor over God does not understand the basic structure of reality. Not to mention that I see no reason why history must have an intelligible structure in the first place. It seems to me that history is what it is. I don't see any way to invest it with "meaning" or "structure" that isn't relentlessly subjective. Such constructs tell us more about the constructor than they do about "objective" history. But history must have some kind of structure, if one says that an "age" is either aborning or dying away.

But if he's an apocalyptic thinker, he's in the same company with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who also invests history with structure and purpose, and awaits (and tries to push along) its final apotheosis in the impending Armageddon. Seems like these two are pretty much on the same page when it comes to basic worldview. Is this just a coincidence?

Thank you so very much, dearest sister in Christ, for your insights!

53 posted on 04/01/2009 1:27:09 PM PDT by betty boop (All truthful knowledge begins and ends in experience. — Albert Einstein)
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It should be covered in Vol. 26 of The History of Political Ideas. Or thereabouts. Obammunism is an immanentization of the eschaton type of messianic movement.
54 posted on 04/01/2009 1:32:25 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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Obammunism is an immanentization of the eschaton type of messianic movement.

Oh goodie. That clinches it: We're dealing with a madman.

55 posted on 04/01/2009 3:28:44 PM PDT by betty boop (All truthful knowledge begins and ends in experience. — Albert Einstein)
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To: betty boop
Thank you so much for sharing your wonderful insights, dearest sister in Christ!

But again, liberation for what?

I suspect the root of "Liberation Theology" is Marxism.

But if he's an apocalyptic thinker, he's in the same company with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who also invests history with structure and purpose, and awaits (and tries to push along) its final apotheosis in the impending Armageddon. Seems like these two are pretty much on the same page when it comes to basic worldview. Is this just a coincidence?

Truly I do not think it is a coincidence. I suspect the Muslim world sees Obama as a big step in the direction of the Twelfth Imam. And a number of Christians look at Obama as possibly one of the prophesied menacing end time characters.

If he brokers a peace agreement establishing Jerusalem as an international city under UN control where Judaism, Islam and Christianity can build their own religious facilities, then I'd mark my calendar.

But I doubt Obama sees himself this way. Though he may see himself as a, if not the, deliverer. But that in itself is dangerous.

56 posted on 04/01/2009 8:27:44 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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Thank you so much for sharing your wonderful insights, dearest sister in Christ!

But again, liberation for what?

I suspect the root of “Liberation Theology” is Marxism.

But if he’s an apocalyptic thinker, he’s in the same company with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who also invests history with structure and purpose, and awaits (and tries to push along) its final apotheosis in the impending Armageddon. Seems like these two are pretty much on the same page when it comes to basic worldview. Is this just a coincidence?

Truly I do not think it is a coincidence. I suspect the Muslim world sees Obama as a big step in the direction of the Twelfth Imam. And a number of Christians look at Obama as possibly one of the prophesied menacing end time characters.
If he brokers a peace agreement establishing Jerusalem as an international city under UN control where Judaism, Islam and Christianity can build their own religious facilities, then I’d mark my calendar.

But I doubt Obama sees himself this way. Though he may see himself as a, if not the, deliverer. But that in itself is dangerous.


If you Google Bernadine Dohrn and read some of her writings regarding revolutionary Marxism, and if you can read some of the FBI material that is online regarding her, William Ayers and the Weather Underground’s obsession with linking to the black militant movement, you will see that Obama is the final chapter of a fanatical search that dates all the way back to the Port Huron statement, the creation of a miltary revolutionary arm of the former SDS (basically as directed by Castro, et. al.) in the 1960s....and all of this is what encapsulates “black liberation theology,” which again, is one of those three-word Marxist lies—it’s not really black, no one gets liberated, and theology? (PUH-LEASE)...

(Wow. That’s a run-on sentence if ever there was one.)

My point is that Marxism is exactly what you’re dealing with, the revised version established by Castro, Gramsci, Alinsky and other second-generation types such as the Institute for Policy Studies and its various off-spring.

Obama, aka Comrade Obamsky, is a pretty-face front boy for the actual deep thinkers of the movement. He’s an idiot but an electable idiot. Ayers wrote his books for him. The Rev. Wright gave him his slogans and bumper stickers and his “street cred.” Bernadine is the author of the agenda which is more vile than anyone understands at this point. Ultimately, these people believe in killing as a political solution. That’s what you’re dealing with. A death cult.


57 posted on 04/02/2009 5:47:13 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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Thank you for sharing your insights, dear PaleoBob!
58 posted on 04/02/2009 8:48:25 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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(Wow. That’s a run-on sentence if ever there was one.)

But a pretty darned good one, I have to say! Certainly it's a truthful one.

Thank you ever so much, PaleoBob, for your outstanding essay/post!

59 posted on 04/03/2009 11:25:21 AM PDT by betty boop (All truthful knowledge begins and ends in experience. — Albert Einstein)
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Your post says it all.....


60 posted on 04/12/2009 5:45:08 PM PDT by Guenevere ("He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep, to gain that which he cannot lose")
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