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Do New Bulbs Save Energy if They Don’t Work?
New York Times ^ | March 27, 2009 | Leora Broydo Vestel

Posted on 03/28/2009 3:34:42 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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To: 101voodoo

I tried them out too in my house to see if I could save some $$$$ on my monthly power bill, and so far so good. Not one has failed yet after over a year of service, whereas it seemed like I was changing a regular light bulb very other week.


21 posted on 03/28/2009 4:26:38 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: djpg
Exactly, If they were so damn dumb to be inspired by that horse puckey they probably are to dumb to screw a light bulb in.
22 posted on 03/28/2009 4:26:46 AM PDT by mimaw
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To: reaganaut1
Republicans could appeal to "leave us alone" voters by simply promising to let them use the light bulbs whatever bath room fixtures they want.

Why should people in waterlogged rural Maine be subjected to the same restrains as places on Federal waterfare, like Las Vegas?

23 posted on 03/28/2009 4:26:47 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The death cult wants death, the Israelis want peace. I, for one, see only one solution.)
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To: wolfpat

I, too, have bulbs that have been going for almost 5 years. The warmup time varies. Some brands I have had, especially a few years ago, came on right away. Some of the newer ones have an obvious 15 second warmup period. And the electrical savings was also obvious. We have a couple 5-bulb fixtures that we run all evening.

If you buy cheapos that burn out fast, return them. The stores will get the idea and stock better bulbs. Put the date on them when you put screw them in.

But I do hope LED bulbs eventually replace them. The color of the LEDs is horrible, but they will figure out how to mix colors to get a more natural light.


24 posted on 03/28/2009 4:27:21 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: reaganaut1
I have at least 200 compact fluorescent in my house.

I've been using them for 2 years now. Some of them are on 16 hours a day. I've replaced maybe 8 now. Not bad.

They are in recessed can lights and the vast majority are 14 watt bulbs replacing 60 watt incandescents. Electricity is expensive where I live and the bulbs pay for themselves many times over in energy costs.

You get what you pay for. Buy cheap CFLs and get poor quality both in reliability and light.

The ones I use come on really fast. Because of that they can be used in hallways, etc. They have no detectable flicker and would be safe for lighting moving machinery.

25 posted on 03/28/2009 4:27:28 AM PDT by DB
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To: 101voodoo

Same here. A couple of failures that never worked but overall I’m quite happy with them. In some cases they’re far better.

I used to change the old standard bulb over my stove about once a month but the CFL i replaced it with has been there for nearly a year. I also have one outside. It’s slow reaching full brightness during the winter but I’m OK with that. Also the light from the good quality bulbs is no different than the old standard bulbs.


26 posted on 03/28/2009 4:32:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
"Republicans could appeal to "leave us alone" voters by simply promising to let them use the light bulbs whatever bath room fixtures they want."

I went to a Green Building training a few weeks ago, and learned about "double flush toilets." I told them I already have double flush toilets. I frequently have to flush them twice!

27 posted on 03/28/2009 4:32:51 AM PDT by liberateUS
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To: bgill
Amen to that.

I have to spend my work week under fluorescents. No way am I going to live with them at home.

28 posted on 03/28/2009 4:33:09 AM PDT by Never on my watch (What part of Socialism works and what part of Capitalism doesn't?)
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To: reaganaut1

Kind of like the 1.5 gallon toilets you need to flush three times...


29 posted on 03/28/2009 4:38:58 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
I have a large box in garage where I stash regular bulbs.The fluorescent bulbs in my experience do not last, are expensive and flicker in variable lighting applications.
30 posted on 03/28/2009 4:41:03 AM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how.)
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To: reaganaut1
One of the 16 Feit Electric bulbs the Zuerchers bought at Costco did not work at all, they said, and three others died within hours.

There's a good part of the problem right there - off brand bulbs such as 'Feit' or 'Lights of America' are junk. Stick to GE, Phillips, or another known brand.

That said, there are places where these CF bulbs are not desirable. The CF floods I put in the kitchen take about 8-10 minutes to get to full brilliance so I naturally leave them on once they're there. They will be replaced by incandescents in the future. Many are also subject to poor operation in cold areas if they light at all.

They have their place, and that place is not everywhere.

31 posted on 03/28/2009 4:43:09 AM PDT by meyer (Obama is to the USA as Mugabe is to Zimbabwe.)
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To: reaganaut1

Bought new bulbs, replace them biweekly. How is this saving anything? Not saving money, not saving landfill space, and destroying my eyesight because I can’t read under them.

New light bulb FAIL!


32 posted on 03/28/2009 4:43:45 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: MarkL
I am glad you mentioned that.

In five years the next environmental terror will be mercury poisoning of ground water from the improper disposal of these bulbs. So... New taxes, another recycling bin, new crimes on the books, a new division of the EPA, and a new “White House Office of Interior Lighting.”

I don't care if anyone wants to use CFLs for whatever reason they deem important. But if you tell me that I have to use a CFL, I will tell you where to screw it in.

33 posted on 03/28/2009 4:43:47 AM PDT by Never on my watch (What part of Socialism works and what part of Capitalism doesn't?)
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To: reaganaut1
I started buying these things a few years ago... wasn't really a green effort, I just saw the long term value reducing KWH by 80% since my kids refuse to turn off the dozens of 100W fixures from one end of the house to the other, upstairs and down. I figured now I wouldn't have to worry about it.

Well guess what, the things are junk. they die 10X faster than a std bulb and cost 5X as much...it cost me more replacing bulbs in 1 year that died than I would save in 20 years of reduced electrical consumption.

I'd still go for it if they get the damn things to work, but I'm done with it for now.

34 posted on 03/28/2009 4:48:53 AM PDT by FunkyZero ("It's not about duck hunting !")
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To: liberateUS

Next time your north of the 49th stop by Canadian Tire (a hardware retailer) and get some real shower heads.


35 posted on 03/28/2009 4:50:03 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The death cult wants death, the Israelis want peace. I, for one, see only one solution.)
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To: cydcharisse
Screw them.

Pun intended?

36 posted on 03/28/2009 4:50:55 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: Never on my watch
But if you tell me that I have to use a CFL, I will tell you where to screw it in.

Yes, it makes perfect logic to put a lighbulb where the sun don't shine.

37 posted on 03/28/2009 4:52:48 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The death cult wants death, the Israelis want peace. I, for one, see only one solution.)
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To: Does so

That’s what a lot of people in my town find out. Our 120 volt is actually 124 volts and it burns out 120 volt bulbs fast. I’m an electrical contractor and I always use 130 volt bulbs.


38 posted on 03/28/2009 4:54:15 AM PDT by GoDuke
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To: 101voodoo

Mine have been good, too, sometimes lasting years. I had several with bad screw-in bases but the rest worked from the minute I put them in lamps.


39 posted on 03/28/2009 4:54:43 AM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: wolfpat; 101voodoo

Long before they became a political issue, I replaced a about two thirds of the bulbs in my house with CF bulbs, at a time when they were far more expensive. Right now they’re in sconces, indoor garage lights, and several overhead fixtures. I’ve not used them in other applications, like reading lamps with three light levels. Overall, they’ve worked very well where I’ve placed them. The greatest benefit I’ve received is not having to change light bulbs.


40 posted on 03/28/2009 4:57:56 AM PDT by libstripper
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