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Pat Buchanan: The Weimar Solution
Townhall ^ | March 24, 2009 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 03/24/2009 7:55:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 03/24/2009 7:55:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If this happens it will be Obama’s fault and there will be no denying it.


2 posted on 03/24/2009 8:03:26 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Can one blame the Chinese? They have already been burned on their U.S. investments. And if the defense of the dollar against its ancient enemy inflation is being abandoned, and protecting the dollar is to take a back seat to the Fed's fight to avoid deflation, than it is indeed time to get out of the dollar and dollar-denominated assets.

So, will Buchanan now cheer the upshot of these balance of payments, you know, once the Chinese quit buying and gettin burned on Treasuries? A capital account surplus [hint: what happen when the Chinese purchase our assets] is equal to a cuurent account deficit (aka trade deficit for those that worry about such things). So, if the capital accounts begin decreasing, the so-called trade deficit will improve. Is this not something like what Buchanan-types would wanted?

3 posted on 03/24/2009 8:04:56 PM PDT by LowCountryJoe (Do class-warfare and disdain of laissez-faire have their places in today's GOP?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

SPOT ON.

And that COMPLETE Keynes quote is this:

“By a continuing process of inflation, governments can
confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the
wealth of their citizens. There is no subtler, no surer means of
overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the
currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic
law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner which not
one man in a million is able to diagnose.”
John Maynard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of The Peace, 1920


4 posted on 03/24/2009 8:10:57 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Anti-Bubba182
If this happens it will be Obama’s fault and there will be no denying it.

Of course there will be denying it. The MSM will be full of "Bush's Fault".

But since Obama may not be worried about the next election, because he thinks there will not be one, he can ruin the economy at will, as long as it results in more power and control for the government, and of course for him.

5 posted on 03/24/2009 8:18:18 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Not "if" -- it's WHEN. And it suits Obamas agenda -- and that of those pulling his strings -- just fine, thank you!
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I’d be willing to bet that – except for gold and silver -- Obama’s key “handler” (Soros) is short every U.S. market and has his “boy” talking the markets down every day.


6 posted on 03/24/2009 8:18:27 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert

“I invite the reader’s attention to the much more serious consideration of the kind of lives our ancestors lived, of who were the men, and what the means both in politics and war by which Rome’s power was first acquired and subsequently expanded; I would then have the reader trace the process of our moral decline, to watch, first, the sinking of the foundations of morality as the old teachings was allowed to lapse, then the rapidly increasing disintegration, then the final collapse of the whole edifice, and the dark dawning of our modern day when WE CAN NEITHER ENDURE OUR VICES NOR FACE THE REMEDIES NEEDED TO CURE THEM”.

The Early History of Rome
Livy ( Titus Livius ) 64 B.C.to 17 A.D.


7 posted on 03/24/2009 8:21:04 PM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

What do you mean “there will be no denying it”? Of course there will be “denying it”.

I’m confused — are you not aware that the average Joe’s opinion on practically every topic is formed by the mass media? Or are you unaware that the Forces of Evil control the mass media?

If 2008 taught us anything, it taught us that despite the Internet and Talk Radio, for the average American, reality is whatever That Guy On TV says it is. If That Guy On TV says that the Great Asteroid Collision of 2032 is the fault of George W. Bush, then that will be the truth as far as the public is concerned.


8 posted on 03/24/2009 8:33:28 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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Obama spin meisters won’t be able to sell it. Even a cud chewing Obamanite knows his money does not go as far. THEY will turn on him first.


9 posted on 03/24/2009 8:37:24 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Dick Bachert

The only way to escape the inflationary trap is to convert your monetary wealth to real property — i.e. goods or knowledge with actual value — and to become as self-sufficient as possible. Liquidate your paper wealth and convert it to property, tools, trade goods, education in practical trades, that sort of thing, not stocks, bonds, or anything with a “value” denominated in currency alone.


10 posted on 03/24/2009 8:38:07 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I hope you’re right, but it’s a faint hope.


11 posted on 03/24/2009 8:39:18 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Fed also pulled money out of circulation which hurt like hell.

The problem with putting monumental amounts of money into circulation is, that was probably going to be the answer to fix the SS/Medicare shortfall coming due. Now it's the answer for too many things that can't work.
12 posted on 03/24/2009 9:02:55 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama - the ethical exception asterisk administration)
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B-Chan:

-—”Liquidate your paper wealth and convert it to property, tools, trade goods, education in practical trades, that sort of thing, not stocks, bonds, or anything with a “value” denominated in currency alone.”

Actually, I’ve thought that buying real estate would be a good thing at some point.

But your comment to not buy stocks doesn’t make sense because a stock is based on the value of a company which has assets and presumably, earnings.

Wouldn’t you (or anyone else here) agree that buying stock (shares) in stable companies is a GOOD inflationary hedge?

Not trying to argue here, just want some dialogue on the subject because I’ve been pondering this a lot lately (are stocks a good inflationary hedge?)...

Take an XOM (Exxon) for example: In an inflationary environment, the price of their product will go up and their profits too (although their overhead will go up too). Perhaps companies that sell commodities will fare best?

Comments anyone?


13 posted on 03/24/2009 9:04:52 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Fed is unconstitutional.


14 posted on 03/24/2009 9:17:30 PM PDT by pankot
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I don’t trust the markets anymore. Sure, XOM’s a stable company today, just as GE was yesterday and Union Carbide last month. Come the next Middle East war, though, the price of crude busts $180 and suddenly U.S. Marshals are knocking on the door in Irving. “This company is hereby enjoined under the Defense Production Act (Pub. L. 81-774) of September 8, 1950 to place its petroleum exploration, drilling, refining, and transporting activities under the control of the Defense Priorities and Allocation System as specified in 15 CFR §§700 - 700.93.”


15 posted on 03/24/2009 9:47:26 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: AlanGreenSpam

Spend the money in Vegas instead....it’s on the level there.


16 posted on 03/24/2009 10:56:53 PM PDT by ninonitti
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YOu’re absolutely right about crude going to go up well over $100. So energy is the gold of the future in an inflationary environment.


17 posted on 03/24/2009 10:57:21 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: B-Chan
?I’m confused — are you not aware that the average Joe’s opinion on practically every topic is formed by the mass media? Or are you unaware that the Forces of Evil control the mass media?"

they don't call them "sheeple" for nothing....

its like watching people sleep walk thru their lives...no connection between them and reality....

18 posted on 03/24/2009 11:32:56 PM PDT by cherry
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To: LowCountryJoe

No, that is not what the “Buchanan Types” want, it is what the “Obama Types” want. It is exactly as in this article what the “
“Buchanan Types” are warning us against. But, just in case you are the type that throws out the baby with the bath water because the tub says made in Buchanan on it. Remember that Common Sense also tells us that Zimbabwe politics do not mix well with free markets or prosperity. Once can not spend their way out of debt.


19 posted on 03/25/2009 2:34:52 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel
I am throwing out the baby with the bathwater when it comes to Buchanan and I'll freely admit it. He makes good points this time around. But in general, his economic nationalism/protectionism, pro-union stances, amongst other peculiarities, bother me immensely.

I do not like the inflation and over-injecting of the money supply. But, I cannot stand Buchanan, and his desire to want things both ways is going to provoke me to point out his inconsistencies.

20 posted on 03/25/2009 2:48:33 AM PDT by LowCountryJoe (Do class-warfare and disdain of laissez-faire have their places in today's GOP?)
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