Physicist Receives Million-Pound Prize for Predicting a 'Hypercosmic God'

ICR ^ | March 24, 2009 | Jeffrey Tomkins, Ph.D.

[dr_lew]

“that cannot be touched which cannot be touched itself”

Yikes. s/b "that cannot touch which may not be touched itself."

[Just another Joe]

Interesting principle. Let's test it. Give me one example in which your adulthood has affected your childhood.

Not apples to apples.

A more apt example would be - Give me one way that your adulthood ahs affected your spouses adulthood.

[Louis Foxwell]

Wow! It is strange to find someone who has figured this out in the same way that I have. I do think the String theory is the most plausible one for creation/God.

Truth is universal and absolute. Its perception requires extraordinary perception. Congrats.

[Louis Foxwell]

To prove God exists(in any form) or does not exist.. You must know WHat God is... Who does? Surely not this Templeton Primate..

Hence his inability to take the next logical step, one based on certain knowledge of which he has only some.

[Louis Foxwell]

“[[If events in one dimension affect events in the other dimension then, logically, it should go both ways]]

Not if there’s a check valve”

LOL Very good. God has asured us, however, that there is no check valve.

[LearnsFromMistakes]

Give me one example in which your adulthood has affected your childhood.

Since the past only lives within us, our current moods and experiences impact how we see events in our past, thus 'changing history'.

[Louis Foxwell]

Give me one example in which your adulthood has affected your childhood.

If we experience but one dimension there is no time, rendering your query meaqningless.

[adorno]

To prove God exists(in any form) or does not exist.. You must know WHat God is... Who does?

Try this experiment with your cat...

If you have a small area rug or floor mat, lay your cat on top of it. Then drag the mat around with the cat on it. If your cat is just like mine, the cat will react to the carpet and try to attack it or scratch it.

Neither my cat nor yours (if you have one), is smart enough to understand cause and effect. It's not smart enough to understand that the mat is not alive, and it's not smart enough to realize that it's me dragging around the mat that's suddenly "come alive".

My point is that, we are just like cats in the overall scheme of the universe. Cats don't have the intelligence to understand some very basic concepts, such as cause and effect. We humans don't yet have the intelligence to understand the huge complexities of the universe. We may never grow big enough brains or intelligence to understand the universe or it's beginning. If there really is a God, then we are not capable of understanding His/Her/Its capabilities.

[editor-surveyor]

...as well as the possibility of multi-directional "time" processes.

Our concept of time, as a rigid line of absolute sequence, is a property of a universe that simply does not exist.

Sequence is dependent on point of, and nature of observation. Time is a fuzzy, pliable pipe, not a line, but the idea of continuous, unlimited time travel in a negative direction is fantasy to any denizen of this universe.

[hosepipe]

I had some cats one time that grew to be a year old before there were ever taken outside.. One sunny day we took them out on the lawn one weekend.. They grasped the grass/lawn like they were going to FALL UP(to the sky) and mewed.. They always had a ceiling over them..

It was quite funny until we understood the distress they were in.. Many humans seem to be in the same kind of distress.. they are in some kind of stunted spirituality.. They can only believe what they see.. and what they see is(has been) limited..

[Louis Foxwell]

They grasped the grass/lawn like they were going to FALL UP

Wonderful. Now we know why Plato's cave dwellers refused to go outside.

[hosepipe]

Indeed..

[csense]

I could be wrong, but I'm not sure I agree that there is a category error. My understanding of a category error is one of assigning improper properties. I'm not quite sure what other properties a past event would have other than time and space, or why such properties would be considered in error or inapplicable.

You guys probably have much more knowledge on this subject than I, but it seems to be a valid analogy from my perspective.

Thanks for the input.

[csense]

Our concept of time, as a rigid line of absolute sequence, is a property of a universe that simply does not exist. Sequence is dependent on point of, and nature of observation. Time is a fuzzy, pliable pipe, not a line...

I don't see time as a rigid line. I see time as motion and momentum, but, I'm not a physicist, so...

Thanks for the response e-s

[csense]

A more apt example would be - Give me one way that your adulthood ahs affected your spouses adulthood.

I disagree. First and foremost the analogy must have similar qualities. If you disregard the distinction of time and space, then I'm not sure exactly what you're left with that is still valid...

Thanks for the response.

[csense]

Since the past only lives within us, our current moods and experiences impact how we see events in our past, thus 'changing history'.

I think your premise creates an unwarranted dilemma, don't you think

Anyway, thanks for the response.

[csense]

If we experience but one dimension there is no time, rendering your query meaqningless.

If there is distance, then there is time, and since we know there is distance, then it follows that there must also be time. Objection refuted.

Thanks for the response