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Pregnant women denied epidurals 'to boost traditional births'
Daily Mail ^ | 02nd March 2009 | Julie Moult

Posted on 03/04/2009 8:27:26 PM PST by Lorianne

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To: Lorianne

I’m not a woman. If I were a woman, I would have every procedure available to make childbirth less agonizing. Women have my respect.


21 posted on 03/04/2009 8:48:32 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Lorianne
Mal-f*ing-practice. Whorehouse ethics to boot.
22 posted on 03/04/2009 8:49:32 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Lorianne
But now new guidelines have categorised the procedure as unnatural in a bid to boost the number of women having traditional births.The aim is to reduce the number of women having epidurals or caesareans by up to 40%.

Natural? How about having the baby out in the field and cutting the umbilical cord with a stone knife? All of this stuff with doctors and latex gloves and pain killers and heart monitors just gets us away from nature.

23 posted on 03/04/2009 8:50:27 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Obama: removing the speed limit on the Road to Serfdom)
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To: hinckley buzzard

How nice. /s


24 posted on 03/04/2009 8:50:42 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: KarlInOhio

My aunt and uncle had a farm. Aunt Hildred would work in the fields, go in and have the baby, clean it, feed it and go back out in the fields. She had 10. I cringe just thinking about it.


25 posted on 03/04/2009 8:53:12 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Shadowstrike

lol Its really hard to move your legs like that while in labor.


26 posted on 03/04/2009 8:54:14 PM PST by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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To: Lorianne

Queen Victoria would not be amused.

The UK medical establishment was against the use of anesthetics in childbirth 156 years ago. Apparently, nothing has changed...

http://www.ph.ucla.edu/EPI/snow/lancet1853reaction.html


27 posted on 03/04/2009 8:55:24 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but he will give us the shaft.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I threw up with most of mine - that’s how I knew I was in transition.

My babies were big and they were all “sunny side up” - came out face up instead of face down, so my back labor was pretty unbearable.

Sure am glad I’m not a brit.


28 posted on 03/04/2009 8:55:35 PM PST by Scotswife (GO ISRAEL!!!)
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To: Lorianne

Let’s hope it does get the attention of some who blindly profess ObamaLove...

The denial of epidurals is a cost saver and nothing more. Traditional births...ha! And I say that as a mother of five (a couple w/epi’ a few w/o...and one a ten pounder!!!)
All that said, this should be about ‘choice.’ Isn’t that a favorite mantra of the Left? Telling a women she can’t have anesthesia is wrong...but instead of Lamaze ‘focusing’ the mom-to-be can channel her pain in visualizing acts of agression/vengence against those who denied her meds.

I think epi’s are great; so is stadol. There is a reason Anesthesiologists make in the high six figures...their pain management ‘works.’ I had my first completely natural, Lamaze breathing all the way...by the time I got to number five...I could ‘hear’ the med cart (with the wonderful doc) coming down the hall...


29 posted on 03/04/2009 8:55:51 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (Are you an FBI Agent? Actually, I 'm a stay at home mom...)
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To: Lorianne
Yikes! This ought to get the attention of women supporters of nationalized healthcare!

Earlier today there was a thread which discussed how conservatives could reach out to women. I think this issue could be one!

I chose not to have an epidural, but I'd die (well, almost) for your right to have one.

30 posted on 03/04/2009 8:56:40 PM PST by Dianna (Obama Barbie: Governing is hard.)
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To: HungarianGypsy

I have been warned before about serious back problems after an epidural, especially with muscular/fit women.

I NEVER want someone putting a needle into my spinal cord. EFF THAT. I would prefer some temporary pain. 15 hours of hell is better than a lifetime of pain and being overweight because you can’t exercise because your back hurts.

and I had a Caldwell-Lucs under local. I know what pain is.


31 posted on 03/04/2009 8:58:01 PM PST by japaneseghost
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To: Lorianne

I’d rather endure the labor pain. The thought of a needle in my spine gives me the heebiejeebies.


32 posted on 03/04/2009 8:58:20 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake.)
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To: Big_Monkey
My sister-in-law had one of her kids in a public UK hospital. I’m told it was downright medieval. How medieval you ask? She and the baby still had blood on them when they went home - that night. Welcome to socialized medicine.

It's obvious anyone in this country who wants a UK-style national health service has never actually used it.

Having an infected blister cleaned and dressed in the local doctor's smoke-stench filled study was bad enough, but the faint whiff of liquor on his breath (at 10AM!) was unnerving.

But at least it was free!

33 posted on 03/04/2009 8:58:20 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: originalbuckeye

“70’s. Zero will have his nationalized health care but I won’t bet on his surviving the experience”

Now consider the number of ob/gyns already leaving medicine due to the high cost of malpractice insurance.

Then consider The One wants to force OB/Gyns to perform abortions whether they want to or not.
And force medical interns to spend time doing abortions whether they want to or not - regardles of what field they choose to specialize in.

So - there will be a purging of the doctors, nurses, and many hospitals will close.


34 posted on 03/04/2009 9:00:11 PM PST by Scotswife (GO ISRAEL!!!)
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To: Scotswife

I think it should be a choice. My easiest one was natural. I just couldn’t handle the epi. I was very glad that they no longer “hobbled” women to help them heal. Talk about barbaric!


35 posted on 03/04/2009 9:00:57 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: KarlInOhio
LOL, yeah really, "traditional births?"

Do they mean the kind women used to routinely die from?

36 posted on 03/04/2009 9:01:58 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: abigailsmybaby

“I’d rather endure the labor pain. The thought of a needle in my spine gives me the heebiejeebies.”

I profusely thanked the anesthesia.
I may even have told him I loved him.

He said he was the most popular dude on the maternity floor, and none of the other doctors received gifts from the patients like he did.


37 posted on 03/04/2009 9:02:10 PM PST by Scotswife (GO ISRAEL!!!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

hobbled? what’s that?


38 posted on 03/04/2009 9:02:57 PM PST by Scotswife (GO ISRAEL!!!)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
"But at least it was free!

Free health care, but not a dentist in the whole damned country.

39 posted on 03/04/2009 9:03:36 PM PST by Big_Monkey
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To: Lorianne

I had 4 naturally. The only reason i didn’t choose an epidural was because i was more afraid of a needle in my spine but if there had been ANY other alternative to REAL pain relief , I would have been ALL OVER THAT!

come on! pooping is natural but they give enema’s
dying with pain is natural but they give morphine.

why in gods name can we give drugs for just about any other condition but when it comes to one of the most painful things a person can endure everyone wants a woman to just suck it up and suffer? why when we don’t HAVE to?


40 posted on 03/04/2009 9:03:44 PM PST by annelizly
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