Posted on 02/28/2009 6:07:30 PM PST by RED SOUTH
Romney - don’t make me puke.
Another RINO and I will join a fringe party.
In 1977 Reagan would’ve been the heavy favorite. But first, to speculate on that, I’d like to know who did CPAC actually choose in those years?
“Some of us conservatives see Romney as two-faced politico, who would do or say anything to get elected.”
I’ll be honest. I don’t believe that’s true but I can honestly see why some feel that way. He did shift positions over the course of a decade and that always raises some level of suspicion. (I also think it needs to be said that if our movement can’t accept converts we are doomed.) However what I don’t understood is the kind of unhinged fifth columnist alarmism coming from my FRiend DJ.
CPAC has lost a lot of its luster in recent years. Three of the biggest CPAC contenders since 2007 have been Giuliani, McCain and Romney.
Maybe you call that conservatism at its best. I don't.
Not really. Because I predicate that with the belief that I am confident the nominee won’t be a liberal - not to my mind at least. I’m also confident that Spector, Lugar, Snowe, Graham, Paul, Voinovich, Schwarzenegger, and Collins won’t be the nominee. Regardless whoever the GOP nominates against Obama I’ll support that person. The liklies are Romney, Palin, Sanford, Pawlenty, Huckabee. I don’t really like Huckabee and have at least one reservation about all of them but I can support them.
Surely we have 2 true conservatives with the record, the ability to speak clearly and the cajones to stand up to this liberal bunch now running things.
It ain't Romney
Slick Willard’s nomination in 2012 is tantamount to running interference for the False Messiah. Slick’s political mentor in Massachusetts, ex-Gov. William Weld (another “Slick Willie”), a liberal RINO, endorsed the False Messiah for President. These guys are just rolling Trojan Horse after Trojan Horse through the Republican party gates and the Stupid Party adherents say “Thank you, sir. May I have another ?” This will ultimately result in the GOP’s total dissolution before long. Take a look at what happened in the span of over a decade in MA. A resurgent and growing GOP in the ‘90s completely dead with Slick Willard’s fleeing from office in 2006. Zero Republicans in statewide or federal office. 10% of the legislature. That CAN happen to us. MA used to be one of the most Republican states in the country and liberals within the party killed it. Not the Kennedys, not Dukakis, not Kerry, but liberals like Weld and Slick Willard.
“Maybe you call that conservatism at its best. I don’t.”
I don’t. I don’t think Romney is the best conservative out there. What I do think he is, is the best balance between conservatism and electability for 2012 that can secure the nomination. In short, his perceived area of expertise - the economy (not to mention the budget deficit) - is as of now prime target in 2012.
I am guilty (in some quarters) of backing McCain in 2007-08. Fair enough but that battle is over and I’m not retreading it.
Giulini is not a great conservative in my view (although he did lay out a remarkably conservative agenda as far as NYC politics is concerned) and if anything George F. Will’s praise of him turns me off (can’t stand that man) - and most of all am deeply disturbed by his abortion views - however Rudy was above all a scrappy fighter and I found that attractive. However I would be taking a gamble admittedly of believing that he would appoint only strict constructionists. I didn’t take the gamble ultimately although I probably believed it and it was tempting. To be honest if Giulini had been the same exact candidate except being pro-life I would’ve probably settled on him over McCain.
In retrospect I think Romney would’ve been the best nominee in 2008 because of the economy. I didn’t see that coming that hard.
To be a Natural Born Citizen one has to be born in a State, or Condition of, Allegiance to the USA. A person with Dual Nationality due to having parents of differing Nationality, who both acknowledged the Birth, is not so born. Their Allegiance is, by definition, divided. Subsequent acquisition of Nationality produces the same problem."
What you don't understand, Norm, could fill a stadium. No, that's not the case, now is it ? You're not blind at all. You're willfully supporting this abomination with eyes wide open. You're gleefully rolling this Trojan Horse through the gates and telling us it's our savior. And I'm calling you on your fraud and your conduct. You pulled that crap last year with Juan, and now you're trying it again. You told me privately you wanted those two on a ticket together. Nope, Norm. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. You can fool 300 or so schmucks at a Conservative gathering who are distracted by a shiny piece of silver, but you're not going to fool the base again, and I'm going to make damn sure to enlighten as many about his game and yours and your bot friends.
I see what you are doing. You want Mitt Romney to pay for the sins of anyone who has contact with him. It’s a transparent tactic that unfortunately always works with some.
Because this party is dead if it puts up another liberal like it did last year, your good buddy Juan. But if you're so desirous to see a Conservative nominee, why don't you actually back one for a change ? Maybe because you're a liberal ?
He or she is one of those people itching to be banned once and for all.
You really don’t think much of the GOP electorate, do you ? Frauds and liars get elected on the Democrat ticket, not the Republican one. Slick should go back to his old home, the one he was proud to be in when he opposed Reagan.
We are discussion= we are discussing
I want to see pro-criminal RINO Trojan Horse Democrat scum defeated. Why don’t you, Norm ? How many more victims like the Maucks will satisfy you with his ascension ? You’ve demonstrated clearly and completely you want the GOP to be a dead party. Well, Slick Willard’s credentials at party-killing are unquestioned. His great achievement.
>>>>>>I am guilty (in some quarters) of backing McCain in 2007-08. Fair enough but that battle is over and I’m not retreading it.
Okay! No more RudyMcRombee's!
If Romney runs in 2012, Free Republic will not be a pleasant place for his candidacy or his supporters. Just ask Jim.
“What you don’t understand, Norm, could fill a stadium. No, that’s not the case, now is it ?”
Yes, it is the case. If you have a case let’s hear it - chapter and verse. What I don’t want to hear is dogs on top of cars and wives’ donations and a corrupt judge. Give me something I can feel. If you want to build up Mitt Romney into the biggest monster this half of the 21st century then it stands to reason you need to back it up with a big mound of diverse evidence. That’s the way it works - the higher the pay the higher the stakes. You accused the man of being shadier than the Clintons, an ultimate deceiver. That is one hell of an “accomplishment.” Even to the casual observer the Clintons are shadier than your typical Chicago mayor. So spell it out. I’m captive.
“You told me privately you wanted those two on a ticket together.”
What I told you privately ought to stay in private. However that was no secret ultimately - I did favor a McCain/Romney ticket. And why not? The economy was a big issue and Romney has a perceived strength on it.
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