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Radical new bill talks of banning pit bulls in Ore., euthanizing them
KATU ^ | 28 Feb 2009 | Meghan Kalkstein

Posted on 02/28/2009 11:31:01 AM PST by BGHater

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121 posted on 03/04/2009 10:38:28 PM PST by familyop (As painful as the global laxative might be, maybe our "one world" needs a good cleaning.)
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To: truthguy
And no I voted against Obama. What kind of a remark is that?

Because that is a typical response of a liberal diseased brain thought process.

You are spending too much time at the black jack table.

You are a typical non-Las Vegas type. Don't live up to the moronic crap you are spouting.

I've been a dog owner for over 25 years...

Wow, let's see...I got my first Lab when I was 10 yrs old...that would be 1966...so, your calculator says what...?

I got my first Pit in 1986, female, 45 pounds. Adopted another the next year, male, 90 pounds.

I did not "socialize" my dogs with other dogs, did not go to your "doggie parks", why?

My neighbor let his Akita run loose, always at my gate, antagonizing my dogs. I told the f### head owner, "I control my dogs, they are not loose, not ever. You keep your POS off of my property or I'm going to open the gate and let my dogs do their thing - protect their property."

Many repeats of this. One day I heard the familiar noise, called my dogs back, the male came back with a nasty bite wound on his nose - he stuck his nose through the gate gap and the Akita bit him......

Enough of this crap....walked out and opened the gate. 75 feet from my gate to the curb of the street. The Akita did not make it to the curb. I picked up the very dead Akita, walked across the street and dumped it on the front door, rang the door bell, "Your dog is dead, I told you to keep it off my property and away from my dogs."

But the dogs have been bred for aggression so it's not unusual for a "good" dog to snap and Pits have so much power that they injure other dogs.

Yes, the dogs were very much bred for aggression - in the pit - against another dog. Do you know that any dog that showed aggression to the handler was immediately shot?

The only breed of dog that any sign of aggression towards a human was selectively bred OUT. They were killed, on the spot.

What the druggies and irresponsible owners of today have done is nothing short of a travesty. It's not the dog, very much the owner.

I had three horrific incidents with my Pit's: 1) A buddy decided to get down on the floor and mess with the female dog.....

She peed on his head.

2) The same dog got vicious with another buddy's 6 month old baby: she stuffed her nose so far into the babie's diaper that the baby fell over backwards.

3)I was a bad boy, stayed out too late and tried to sneak into the house. Got the door opened, got about two steps inside, started to close the door behind be...then I heard the most evil sounding growl - about 10 ft in front of me - oh sh!t....... "Lucky, it's me, it's me boy....Dad's here....".....stealth entry blown...tail wagging, hitting everything is sight, lots of noise....and licking.

I still think of that incident, what if that were not me coming through the door....say hello to my to my 90 lb meat grinder.....

I traveled a lot, gone for 3 - 6 months. The dogs took over.

The female went to the bottom, left side of the bed, closet to the door. The male went to the end of the hallway leading to the bedroom.....line one and line two of defense. No training for that, they just did it.

Pit's rule...

122 posted on 03/04/2009 10:39:41 PM PST by LasVegasMac (Islam: Bringing the world death and destruction for 1400 years!)
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To: familyop

LOL,,,I’m just a little too close for nukes,,,

More like bayonet range,,,

THUG DAWG UPDATE :

That son of a bitch THUG next door is still at it,,,

Hid all the “extra dawgs” for a week or so,,,

After AC crawled his ass for more than 4 dawgs in the yard.

Now the biggest and baddest were brought out of hiding and

are chained just so three of them throw themselves against

my fence when ever I take Harley out in my back yard to pee!

Still let two at a time out front to shiite in the sideyard

without havin’ them on a leash,,,Just let em’ run loose!!!

NO LAW HERE!!!(just my .44)...


123 posted on 03/04/2009 11:28:52 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: LasVegasMac; familyop

Enough of this crap....walked out and opened the gate. 75 feet from my gate to the curb of the street. The Akita did not make it to the curb. I picked up the very dead Akita, walked across the street and dumped it on the front door, rang the door bell, “Your dog is dead, I told you to keep it off my property and away from my dogs.”
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That makes you a typical THUG-DAWG owner now don’t it,,,?!

PIT’S SUCK !!!

You Would Go Directly To Jail In My State!!!
(if the owner didn’t bust a cap in yer ass)

Wise Up Sonny!!!...


124 posted on 03/04/2009 11:50:26 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: LasVegasMac; familyop; All
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“It is important to draw attention to the studies because of lobbying efforts by a segment of the population that stubbornly continues to insist that no breed of dog is inherently dangerous, even in the face of apparently overwhelming contrary evidence. A report by Animal People found that, of 264 canine homicides from 1982 to 2006 in the USA and Canada, a total of 65% of the deaths were caused by pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes. (Merritt Clifton, Dog Attack Deaths and Maimings, US and Canada, September 1982 to November 13, 2006, click here to download.) An older study published in the Journal of Pediatrics reported 109 fatalities from 1989 to 1994 in the US, with 37% inflicted by pit bulls and Rottweilers. (Sacks JJ, Lockwood R, Hornreich J, Sattin RW. Fatal dog attacks, 1989-1994. Pediatrics 1996; 97:891-5.) These studies establish that pit bulls and Rottweilers clearly are dangerous if judged by the damage that they inflict when they attack people. (Footnote 1.) It should be noted, however, that an apparently exhaustive study of canine homicides arrived at entirely different conclusions, and made a strong case that “addressing the issue of severe and fatal dog attacks as a breed specific problem is akin to treating the symptom and not the disease.” Karen Delise, Fatal Dog Attacks: The Stories Behind the Statistics, 2002, self published, available by

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“Every 40 seconds someone in the United States seeks medical attention for a dog bite-related injury.
Dog attacks cause 4.5 million injuries annually, 800,000 of which require medical attention.
At least 25 different breeds of dogs have been involved in the 238 dog bite-related fatalities in the United States.
Pit bulls and rottweilers account for over half of these deaths.
24% of human deaths involve unrestrained dogs off of their owners’ property.
58% of human deaths involved unrestrained dogs on their owners’ property. “
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Now Listen Up Pec’ka Head!!!

I don't want to have to PAY to put somebody back together

because they can't afford $1,000,000’s to put them back

together after some turd-head opens a gate and lets pits

loose to kill somebody’s dawg and they MAUL somebody’s kid!

125 posted on 03/05/2009 2:18:08 AM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
"Sorry, but pit-bull terriers are STILL PART OF the species of DOG. Therefore, how can you separate 1 from the others?"

Well, O1Line Rebel, we might start with "common sense" analysis of the risk they present to innocent human beings. That would be a novel approach, eh?

But, since you choose to base your argument on an irrelevant technicality (from the POV of the victim attacked) lets understand that all dogs are really bred from the WOLF as has been proven by DNA analysis. Now, since we can't separate one from the other according to your claim, they must all be wolves! No one should be allowed to have a wolf as a pet, hence ALL dogs should be prohibited.

126 posted on 03/05/2009 8:06:07 PM PST by NilesJo
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To: brytlea

“However, even tho I use a behavior sort of method, I do use corrections once the dog knows the correct response and refuses.”

Actually, that IS what Bill Koehler taught. You have to show the dog what to do a number of times, and if he doesn’t learn/do it in a week or so (whatever the case may be), he should be corrected. Some dogs are smart and/or compliant, and don’t need corrections (hence why 1 man called the Koehler DOWN “kind and gentle” - which ironically is 1 of the commands often ignored and with toughest correction of the whole set). Many do, unfortunately!


127 posted on 03/06/2009 6:01:32 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: BGHater

Any POS from the worthless gummint that dared tried to take my dog of any breed would soon get a quick lesson in the sanctity of private property and the Second Amendment.


128 posted on 03/06/2009 8:28:29 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: FightThePower!

They do have medications for your psychological problems, sir,


129 posted on 03/06/2009 8:29:35 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: 1000 silverlings

Wait til the JBT boot-lickers here on FR show up to defend these morons woth badges.

Any cop who shoots my dog will regret it......for the rest of his life by the time me and my lawyers are done with him.


130 posted on 03/06/2009 8:32:50 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: truthguy

Bruce Starr is probably one of these extreme “law and order” type conservatives who think we all need a big policeman instead of allowing rational people to decide for themselves how to enjoy liberty.


131 posted on 03/06/2009 8:34:35 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

Bravi, bravi, bravissimo.


132 posted on 03/06/2009 8:35:33 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: NilesJo

You sir, need to re-read Thomas Paine and Edmund Burke obn the TRUE meaning of liberty,


133 posted on 03/06/2009 8:37:09 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: wolfpat
In Germany back in the day your dog would be a Mischling
134 posted on 03/06/2009 8:41:46 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

According to Thoreau, one has an imperitive moral duty to disobey irrational laws.


135 posted on 03/06/2009 8:43:46 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Dog of peace alert!


136 posted on 03/06/2009 8:51:23 AM PST by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: 1000 silverlings

The flaw in your argument between guns and dogs is that you assume law abiding people are going to be responsible with guns. A dog is an animal and doesen’t care who it kills.


137 posted on 03/06/2009 8:53:15 AM PST by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: NilesJo

Not a bad point. But the fact remains that PBTs are “dog”, and thus, from the OTHER end of it, all dogs could be banned because PBTs are nasty and thus, let’s just cover our bases and ban all dogs.

Honestly I don’t trust PBTs - any of their kind. It is genetic, not simply “environment” BS.

I ALSO don’t trust people and their ability to identify a dog. Too many experts can’t. Unlike inorganic guns, which are items of standard manufacture and can be identified positively, dogs cannot. Not without papers at least and even then, it’s risky because it might not BE that dog or the papers are fraudulent or inadequately overseen (I’ve gotten a fraud of a dog before with AKC purebred “papers”).

Therefore, while in principle alone I don’t like simply banning things, I really am against banning because the Gov. will falsely identify dogs simply from being ignorant. Never mind they will begin to take other dogs away besides alleged “PBTs”.


138 posted on 03/06/2009 9:53:15 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
That makes you a typical THUG-DAWG owner now don’t it,,,?!

You are a real piece of work, now.

The police had four - 4 - FOUR - complaints on record from me aginst the POS dog and owner.

The police had absolutey no problem with the fact that I "must have left the gate open by accident"....my property....habitual irresponsible ex-dog owner...case closed.

What liberal haven do you breath air in?....Kalifungus, just a guess.

In this state, Sonny, I can put a "Cap in yer ass" for being on my property...and 'causing me fear of bodily harm'.

Gotta be a good thing that your punk ass does not live across the street.

Me, a "Thug Dog Owner" - ?.....don't think so, liberal infected brain.

IMO, no differnt than someone trying to cave in my front door and me firing off 10 or 20 rounds.

You adda, Skippy?

139 posted on 03/06/2009 8:45:39 PM PST by LasVegasMac (Islam: Bringing the world death and destruction for 1400 years!)
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To: LasVegasMac
You Wrote :

“Enough of this crap....walked out and opened the gate. 75 feet from my gate to the curb of the street. The Akita did not make it to the curb. I picked up the very dead Akita, walked across the street and dumped it on the front door, rang the door bell, “Your dog is dead, I told you to keep it off my property and away from my dogs.”
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That would cost you 10years and $10,000 in LOUISIANA!
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“The police had absolutey no problem with the fact that I “must have left the gate open by accident”
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Lie to the LEO on a report will cost you two more,,,

Let me see,,,mmm,,,That's Twelve years so far,,,

Now,,,Let me see,,,mmm,,, What is a “Thug” ?

Somebody that has no respect for the LAW.

Somebody that uses their Thug Dawgs to kill or scare others.
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“In this state, Sonny, I can put a “Cap in yer ass” for being on my property...and ‘causing me fear of bodily harm’.
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That's ANYWHERE in Louisiana,,,

FWIW I have a pit-puppy-mill 15’ from my back door,,,

Thugs run it out of a HUD/Welfare house,,,

Had up to 40 or so at one time,,,

Not much help from the cops here either,,,

The AC folks finally came and took some of them away to be

Put down,,,

I'm a 60+yo ‘Nam vet(67-68),,,(DAV),,, I ain't nobodies “Sonny/Punk/Lib”,,,
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“IMO, no differnt than someone trying to cave in my front door and me firing off 10 or 20 rounds.”
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You Couldn't Hit A Bull In The Ass With A Bass Fiddle!!!

140 posted on 03/06/2009 11:16:57 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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