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Soldier doubts eligibility, defies president's orders
WND ^ | February 23, 2009 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 02/23/2009 6:47:18 PM PST by Joiseydude

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To: MindBender26
If the Lt. is not a member in good standing of a recognized armed force, following legal orders, (the Geneva standards) and he kills someone in an offensive operation, he could be considered a murderer.

And what would suddenly make the United States Army, the commissioned officers, non-commissioned officers, and enlisted men and women an unrecognized armed force?

It's far from far-fetched..... and it's that simple, and that serious.

With all due respect this is about as far-fetched as it gets.

241 posted on 02/24/2009 5:38:01 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Crystal Cove
Has this soldier seen the birth certificate for his commanding officer?

His CO doesn't need to be a natural born citizen. Although he must be a citizen, the very fact that he is an officer is an indication that his citizenship status has been verified via a certified copy of his birth certificate or his naturalization papers, or possibly a consular report of birth abroad.

What is the evidence that BHO's natural born citizen status has bee verified by submission of such documentation?

242 posted on 02/24/2009 5:59:16 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Sarajevo
Thanx for the correction!

It's a common misunderstanding. Especially of junior enlisted types. By the time *most* folks go to NCO leadership training, they know the officers put their pants on one leg at a time, but are still horses of a somewhat different color, with different rules and different responsibilities.

I think the the folks who wrote the enlisted oath, especially the 1962 version, never thought there would be a conflict between supporting and defending the Constitution and obeying the orders of the President. And of course there is no conflict if the man in the Oval Office truly is the President. (as long as the orders themselves are lawful).

243 posted on 02/24/2009 6:23:17 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Non-Sequitur

>>>> And what would suddenly make the United States Army, the commissioned officers, non-commissioned officers, and enlisted men and women an unrecognized armed force?.

Which, if one reads his history, you will see that that is exactly what we did to the Waffen SS after WWII.


244 posted on 02/24/2009 7:27:12 PM PST by MindBender26 (The Hellfire Missile is one of the wonderful ways God shows us he loves American Soldiers & Marines)
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To: wac3rd
I won't even quote you in this reply as what you wrote has got to be one of the most cowardly things I've ever heard in my entire life.

I am a woman, a mom, a grandmother, and as such, I should be able to depend upon men like you if "worse came to worse". But let me tell you one damned thing, and make no mistake, I mean this. If you were unable or, God forbid, unwilling to be a part of any movement to take this country back, I would, if absolutely necessary, gladly die for the cause to preserve this country and restore all of her goodness for the sakes of my children and my grandchild.

I would hope that you find your b@lls, sir. You'll need them to survive what the future brings. You'll either need them for the fight for freedom or to offer as a sacrifice to the Marxist regime.

245 posted on 02/24/2009 7:34:02 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: wac3rd
I appreciate the Patrick Henry reference as I am a native Virginian, but my personal resolve has diminished to the point of no return.

Well, I'm sorry to hear that. Do you have children? If grown, do your children have children? Does anyone you care about have children?

If so, I suggest you find some grit, because if you what you believe is true, it's going to be hard sledding. The people who care about you are counting on you. And in the end, when it's time to look at what your life has been, how would you want it to be written? Stay healthy, eat well, get some sleep, be prepared and teach your family how to survive. If you think you're depressed, find a way to get it treated so you can be of use to your family and your own survival. Find a way to serve someone outside your own head - seriously, that will focus and motivate you.

Good luck.

246 posted on 02/24/2009 9:05:55 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. And NEVER GIVE UP!)
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To: Frantzie

Thank you keyboard attorney wannabe obie fan. It will or another case like it will get to SCOTUS
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Best to ignore him. He is desperately in love with the half breed Kenyan. Terrified he will be exposed


247 posted on 02/24/2009 9:14:10 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Frantzie
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248 posted on 02/24/2009 9:14:55 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: IrishPennant
Add something positive for once...I'm thinking a suicide note would be nice about now. Photobucket
249 posted on 02/24/2009 9:18:16 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Bellflower

WOW, thanks for posting that. Amazing.


250 posted on 02/24/2009 9:21:42 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Beckwith

Yad, tada, yada.

Why don’t you just go away
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Can’t you tell what he’s like in person? One of those wannabe know it alls that doesn’t know sh*t, as no friends and is sick at the thought that the object of his wet dreams could be found to be a fraud.


251 posted on 02/24/2009 9:33:19 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: MayflowerMadam
For Pete’s sake, Hussein didn’t even know the title is “Commander In Chief”; he said he would be “Commander AND Chief”. How can anyone in the military take this dolt seriously? _______________________________ Photobucket
252 posted on 02/24/2009 9:37:11 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Frantzie

Scalia said it during a speech at a university - i will find the cite. Scalia said a candidate will have standing. nice how that works. Enjoy.
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Don’t help that POS out!!! Shhhhhhhhhhhh. He gets paid to do this, make him work for it


253 posted on 02/24/2009 9:38:53 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: PleaseNoMore

Cowardly, to some. Yes, I have children and I watch gangbangers (yes, Latinos) hang around the park where he plays, their grafitti in plain sight and their tattooed arms and necks bearing their affiliation.

You have Solis running the Labor Department (know Commie/Labor organizer); a La Raza member heading INS; Napolitano heading DHS who fought every type of enforcement in Arizona she could; gun control/pro-terrorist Eric Holder as AG...Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State...

Every possible Left Wing position is filled with the power of trillions of dollars and the military behind them.

You nation is forever changed and a bunch of old white hacks (like me) will never return this nation to what we remember it to be...clean, safe and with unlimited opportunity.

If you have ever been to Los Angeles in the last 5 years, you will realize that our country is overrun by the 3rd World and unless our military physically deported millions of Mexicans, it will never be the same. Accoring the the LA Times, 2.2 million people are on public assistance. Do the math on that.

All I am saying is that I just want to enjoy my life and not be political anymore, it does no good. You might as well just accept it and have some type of quality of life...we should just lie down and live below the radar...you mentioned children, I have one and don’t want him to live without a father, as right-leaning sites are closely monitored. I have a good friend who works in the FBI and she says we are monitored as close as Islamic terror sites.

I just think we are over-matched.


254 posted on 02/24/2009 9:41:56 PM PST by wac3rd (In the end, we all are Conservative, some just need their lives jolted to realize that fact.)
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To: little jeremiah

“They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a [military] guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of Hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot?

Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the Holy cause of Liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us.

Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave.

Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable—and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come.”

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They said things so perfectly back then. Powerful!


255 posted on 02/24/2009 9:53:16 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: PleaseNoMore

I won’t even quote you in this reply as what you wrote has got to be one of the most cowardly things I’ve ever heard in my entire life.

I am a woman, a mom, a grandmother, and as such, I should be able to depend upon men like you if “worse came to worse”. But let me tell you one damned thing, and make no mistake, I mean this. If you were unable or, God forbid, unwilling to be a part of any movement to take this country back, I would, if absolutely necessary, gladly die for the cause to preserve this country and restore all of her goodness for the sakes of my children and my grandchild.

I would hope that you find your b@lls, sir. You’ll need them to survive what the future brings. You’ll either need them for the fight for freedom or to offer as a sacrifice to the Marxist regime.

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What can I say excpet wow, you are a true patriot and America is smiling.


256 posted on 02/24/2009 9:58:29 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: wac3rd

I have a good friend who works in the FBI and she says we are monitored as close as Islamic terror sites.

I just think we are over-matched.
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Sheesh, you are an anonymous name on here. Use a proxy server, they can’t see who you are and do you seriously think they are going to come after 50 million people that disagree with them?


257 posted on 02/24/2009 10:04:54 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Joiseydude

A true Patriot. God bless him.


258 posted on 02/24/2009 10:08:39 PM PST by Force of Truth (Sarah Palin in 2012!!!!!! WOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!)
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To: mojitojoe

Defeatists should just shut up and get out of the way.


259 posted on 02/24/2009 10:13:35 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: mojitojoe
Sheesh, you are an anonymous name on here. Use a proxy server, they can’t see who you are and do you seriously think they are going to come after 50 million people that disagree with them?

Yeah, what a waste of time that would be for them. If anything, it should strike fear in their hearts. We are only a subsection of people who believe like us.

260 posted on 02/24/2009 10:16:25 PM PST by Force of Truth (Sarah Palin in 2012!!!!!! WOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!)
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