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Bart Shooting: Video Evidence That Grant Was Swinging His Own Arm Up Onto His Own Back When Shot
Flopping Aces ^ | 02-18-09 | Alec Rawls

Posted on 02/18/2009 7:53:04 AM PST by Starman417

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To: Travis T. OJustice

Clearly you are unable to think. The video proves the resistance and that is not murder, sir or ma’am.

I don’t lack debate skills when it comes to visiting with folks that are able to comprehend reality. Only those living in paranoid delusion think this is anything like the USSR.


41 posted on 02/18/2009 10:32:57 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

Durned civilians believing they have a right to travel freely in public


42 posted on 02/18/2009 10:38:50 AM PST by Oztrich Boy ( As for a future life, every man must judge for himself between conflicting vague probabilities. - D)
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To: Travis T. OJustice
LMAO! Please, it's not even close to that. This is murder, at the very least.

I'm speaking in terms of California law and giving the cop the benefit of the doubt he thought he had a taser in his hand and not his gun. As I posted earlier, I find that a bit hard to believe too.

In law, what you think and what you can prove are two very different things. California has certain elements for a murder conviction, in this case you would have to prove the cop knew he had a gun in his hand not the taser, again, benefit of doubt.

43 posted on 02/18/2009 10:42:29 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Obama says we should listen to our enemies, but not to Rush)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Good reply!


44 posted on 02/18/2009 10:46:56 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: Dutchboy88

Ignorant reply!


45 posted on 02/18/2009 10:47:12 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

:)

No kidding.


46 posted on 02/18/2009 10:48:32 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: Dutchboy88
Only those living in paranoid delusion think this is anything like the USSR.

Only those who would welcome the tactics of the USSR are not paranoid in therir delusional love of a "utopia"

47 posted on 02/18/2009 10:52:53 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Obama says we should listen to our enemies, but not to Rush)
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To: Travis T. OJustice
Thanks, I meant to CC you on this reply to dutchboy88

Only those living in paranoid delusion think this is anything like the USSR.

Only those who would welcome the tactics of the USSR are not paranoid in their delusional love of a "utopia"

48 posted on 02/18/2009 10:59:36 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Obama says we should listen to our enemies, but not to Rush)
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To: meandog
Kind of wrong terminology used in this

Digitized frame by frame analysis

Even digitized video uses frames

49 posted on 02/18/2009 11:01:34 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Obama says we should listen to our enemies, but not to Rush)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Durned civilians believing they have a right to travel freely in public

and cause disturbances on trains, and breach the peace of terrified law abiding citizens, and obstruct a peace officer...

50 posted on 02/18/2009 11:36:16 AM PST by dznutz
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To: Starman417

I couldn’t care less about such details. The fact is the suspect was not a lethal threat to the officers when he was shot. Nothing more needs to be asked.


51 posted on 02/18/2009 12:06:09 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberalism is Communism, and both are a mental disorder. Grow up.)
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To: Smogger

The difference is that police apprehend people and are officers of the law, and receive specialized training (though it didn’t help in this instance!). They generally have certain powers and duties my buddies and me do not. Their benefit of the doubt level is different than mine. It certainly is different in court testimony. Unless I have proof what I say happened, they will believe the officer. (It’s also why I have a recorder on me all the time.)

It is more plausible (not excuseable or approvable) to believe that a police officer accidentally shot someone while apprehending him, than it would be if ‘me and my buddies’ were doing the same thing, as I have far less reason to be doing that kind of thing as a non-law enforcement person.


52 posted on 02/18/2009 12:11:32 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

I didn’t see you in the video. Were you there to speak to the man first and determine what you claim to be the situation? If not, then your authority-hating stance is the typical anarchist junk that got the guy killed.

I say we give the cop a bonus.


53 posted on 02/18/2009 12:26:09 PM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88
Let me guess, you are either a cop, or just one of their fluffers.

I do not hate "authority", but I do hate blatant abuse of authority, which this video clearly shows. Murdering a compliant subject is not proper use of 'authority'.

And yeah, i have worked in LEO roles in the past.

I say we give the cop a bonus.

That's not only STUPID, that's absolutely disgisting. I can't believe anyone whoo is ignorant enough to write something so stupid is also able to remember breathe.

You should lose your FR posting privileges for your posts on this thread. Sick, sick, sick!

54 posted on 02/18/2009 12:31:09 PM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: CodeToad
The fact is the suspect was not a lethal threat to the officers when he was shot. Nothing more needs to be asked.

He was ZERO threat, restrained, and compliant.

55 posted on 02/18/2009 12:31:58 PM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

I’m not a cop, but I do have an IQ high enough to spell “who” instead of “whoo”.

You are on the wrong site to think that the folks here are going to side with a guy that fights the cops and dies trying. We support law-abiding citizens and there would have been no incident, if the guy would have cooperated.


56 posted on 02/18/2009 12:37:23 PM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

Oh, you’re a cop fluffer.

Maybe if you had some LEO experience, you’d understand how idiotic your comments are.

Ah, typo police, the perfect way to spot someone who lacks debate ability.


57 posted on 02/18/2009 12:42:08 PM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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If not, then your authority-hating stance is the typical anarchist junk that got the guy killed.

Sounds like you'd rather live on your knees than die on your feet fighting like a man for your own freedom from this type of police abuse.

58 posted on 02/18/2009 12:55:22 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Obama says we should listen to our enemies, but not to Rush)
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To: Dutchboy88

“You are on the wrong site to think that the folks here are going to side with a guy that fights the cops and dies trying. We support law-abiding citizens and there would have been no incident, if the guy would have cooperated.”

I don’t think so, sweetheart. We don’t support tyranny and the shooting of persons not posing a lethal threat. You might, we don’t.


59 posted on 02/18/2009 1:07:46 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberalism is Communism, and both are a mental disorder. Grow up.)
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To: Dutchboy88

“I’m not a cop, but I do have an IQ high enough to spell “who” instead of “whoo”.”

Do you have the brains to know a typo when you see one?


60 posted on 02/18/2009 1:08:35 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberalism is Communism, and both are a mental disorder. Grow up.)
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