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Census records, genealogical research show forebears of Obama’s mother owned slaves
Baltimore Sun ^ | March 2, 2007 | David Nitkin and Harry Merritt

Posted on 02/17/2009 6:40:55 PM PST by DBCJR

Edited on 02/18/2009 3:54:17 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Sherman Logan

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=2&res=9C0CE6DE1E3FEE34BC4D52DFB5668389679FDE&oref=slogin


81 posted on 02/19/2009 3:12:40 PM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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Lovely pdf. Please point out the section where it references taxes on exports rather than imports.


82 posted on 02/19/2009 4:26:10 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Read it yourself. Also, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2134454/posts


83 posted on 02/19/2009 6:10:02 PM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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Can you please send me the pdf from the 1862 NYT about taxes on cotton starting the civil war?


84 posted on 02/19/2009 8:15:06 PM PST by bradthebuilder (War is peace; Ignorance is strength; Freedom is slavery)
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I posted the link. Could you not read it from there? I can see about saving it to my hard drive and emailing it, if I have your email, but you can read it online.

There was also a Natl Park Services archived file that has been purged recently. It was at

http://www.nps.gov/archive/gett/gettkidz/cause.htm


85 posted on 02/20/2009 4:21:28 AM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=2&res=9C0CE6DE1E3FEE34BC4D52DFB5668389679FDE&oref=slogin


86 posted on 02/20/2009 4:22:42 AM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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You might also want to read the thread at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2134454/posts


87 posted on 02/20/2009 4:52:44 AM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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I did read it myself.

It's an interesting document, but it's all about the effects of tariffs on imports not tariffs on exports.

My original response to you was to ask you to point out somewhere it is stated that the US government leveled taxes on exports, specifically cotton, which was what you had claimed.

To date you have chosen not to post any such evidence.

To put it in today's terms, import tariffs might be placed on imported oil or children's toys coming INTO the country.

An export tariff, something I believe is unconstitutional, would be placed on products made here and sold to someone OUTSIDE the USA, such as a Boeing 757 or an M1 Abrams.

Please show me where and when taxes have ever been levied on EXPORTS in this country.

88 posted on 02/20/2009 5:25:48 AM PST by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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One of my primary sources of information was the National Park Services Archive articles. Interestingly enough, one such article has been removed.

http://www.nps.gov/archive/gett/gettkidz/cause.htm

I think I posted its content on FR a year or two ago.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2134454/posts

Here are some other sources:

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~dirwin/exporttax.pdf

http://ngeorgia.com/history/why.html


89 posted on 02/20/2009 5:32:31 AM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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National Park Services Archive article: "One of the main quarrels was about taxes paid on goods brought into this country from foreign countries. This tax was called a tariff. Southerners felt these tariffs were unfair and aimed specifically at them because they imported a wider variety of goods than most Northern people.

Dartmount article: "Although the optimal export tax may seem moot in view of the constitutional prohibition of export taxes, such taxes were actually a live political issue around this time: the Confederacy imposed an export tax on cotton to raise revenue, and Northern members of Congress led an effort to repeal the constitutional provision immediately following the Civil War.

IOW, there was no export tax at the time, or since, for that matter. The article is theoretical only.

Ngeorgia article: "In order to "protect" the northern industries Jackson slapped a tariff on many of the imported goods that could be manufactured in the North.

None of these article mention taxes on exports such as cotton, other than in a hypothetical way in the Dartmouth article. In fact, the only export tax on cotton ever imposed in America was by the CSA.

You appear to be unable to see there is a difference between taxing exports and taxing imports, so I guess I'll just let it slide. Have a great day.

90 posted on 02/20/2009 6:26:26 AM PST by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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The white half of Obama will pay reparations to the other half


91 posted on 07/11/2009 1:35:01 PM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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