Posted on 02/11/2009 8:36:55 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
microbes to man- higher info- you figure it out
Man has more info than microbes?
So microbes can only get new info from man (or other "higher" animals) but man can't get new info from microbes?
nope- keep guessing
enough already- Chemicals had nothign higher from which to gain metainfo from- even microbes had no higher species from which to gain their metainfo from- Metainfo does not arise naturally- Can’t arise naturally, nor can it draw that info from nature- Since hte only way to draw info is via higher speices above thel ower species, and since htere was none to draw from, the whole process breaks down right from the start.
You’ll have to look up the htread Hahaha and I are discussing for more on this-
There was nothign higher from which to draw in the mythical process of abiogensis and biogenisis.
The only way to "draw info" is from higher species? You can't get new info from a virus?
I think a virus is probably a lower species than you....
Well why wouldn't He? Why couldn't He?
Why do people put air-bags in cars for safety?
No and you especially can’t get the maount of info that would have been absolutely essential had macroeovlution happened- We’re talking mind boggling info, and mysteriously, we have no examples of species evolving info additions today- but it ‘must have happened’ ‘sometime in the past’? A virus can’t add info to chemical arrangements- sorry
No and
And?
you especially can’t get the maount of info that would have been absolutely essential had macroeovlution happened
You couldn't get a little info?
A virus can’t add info to chemical arrangements-
What chemical arrangements?
[[What chemical arrangements?]]
Abiogensis
Changing the subject after your initial error, figures.
lol- Yeah- sayingf chemical arrangements and abiogensis is ‘changing the subject’ and apaprently in your mind = error- whatever- You do know what abiogensis is don’t you? Yup- chemical arrangements - supposed life from non life- there’s nothign htere for viruses to work on (and by hte way, where did these viruses come from? Chemicals themselves? A virus can not live on it’s own, so where di they come from? Oh yeah- that’s right, I ‘changed the subject’ woopsie. Still talkign chemical evolutio nhere Todd- pay attention.
When you're talking about transfer between species that already exist, yeah.
But that’s the whole point- Nothign existed, and supposedly, lightening sparked a bunch of precisely aligned chemicals and created chemical arangements (Somehow managing to do what nature simply can NOT do- creating PURE chemicals), and htere simpyl was no ‘life’ above this supposed creation, nor beside it nor below it- it was supposedly the beginning of all life- a bunch of aligned chemicals- then these chemicals somehow managed to do what nature is incapable of once again, and make hte leap to protiens, and to create info that was controlled by something- we’re not told what, as this new ‘protolife’ was direct, protect, repair etc, then another heirarchal leap happened, then naother, and finally, another great miracle happened and metainfo was somehow spontainiously created out of nothing to control, protect, direct, manipulate, and cosntruct all the lower info that somehow was protected directed manipulated etc, by some unknown force since it couldn’t exist in the lower ‘life’ forms.
Any more questions?
Once you've changed the subject, why would I bother?
Grows hair on the back of the hand as well, or so I've heard, and a dimming of the wit.
Yes, one does wonder why would you bother when the discussion goes deeper- Incase you’re itnerested, and wish to contribute- This has all been discussed in depth in the thread titled ‘life’s irreducible complexities’ here on FR- it’s all one big related subject- knock yourself out- there’s plenty of material to comb through and digest there
here’s a link to a similar discussion about life’s irreducible structures: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2172630/posts - I have to go back quite a ways to find hte other one though
Yes, when you've claimed that you can only pick up new information from "species above", why would I bother?
Since Gigi is afraid to answer, maybe you could? The creation model? What's that? Where is it? Link?
[[Yes, when you’ve claimed that you can only pick up new information from “species above”, why would I bother?]]
you wouldn’t bother because it was a trick quesiton- there were nospecies ‘above’ below, beside or behind
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