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Lieberman: I prefer right-wing coalition
JPOST ^ | Feb 11, 2009 0:57 | Updated Feb 11, 2009 4:36 | JPOST.COM STAFF

Posted on 02/10/2009 7:47:54 PM PST by sofaman

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To: JSDude1
sorry ... I was scrolling through the Israeli media.

Based on my reading, it appears that they are. YNet noted that the military vote could lead to a tie. They speculated that Livni & Netanyahu would have to share power.

Personally, I think it's wishful thinking on their part considering that Yediot Aharonot is the NYT of the Israeli media.

21 posted on 02/10/2009 10:10:25 PM PST by sofaman (Moses dragged us through the desert for 40 years to the one place in the ME with no oil - Golda Meir)
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To: Mogwai
Even if Livni bought Shas, who else would join? Meretz is down to 4 and Shas and Metretz don't mix.
The only possible coalitions are a national unity of Kadima-Likud-Labor, Center-right of Likud-Kadima-Yisrael Beitenu or Likud-Kadima-Shas, or right wing and religious with Likud, Yisrael Beitenu, Shas, National Union, Jewish Home, and UTJ.
22 posted on 02/10/2009 10:14:32 PM PST by rmlew (The loyal opposition to a regime dedicated to overthrowing the Constitution are accomplices.)
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To: sofaman

Socialists/Marxists idea of “Sharing Power”/bipartisanship is always that we freedom-loving traditionalist individuals “give up” what we want, and that they get to rule unhindered. We are seeing the result of that now in the USA.


23 posted on 02/10/2009 10:20:48 PM PST by JSDude1 (R(epublicans) In Name Only SUCK; D(emocrats) In Name Only are worth their weight..)
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To: rmlew

Very good analysis! I’ll just add that I do think it would make Netanyahu and Likud look rather unscrupulous to join a Kadima-led national unity government. For Kadima to take the #2 spot would probably not look as bad for them, as they’re not expected to have so many scruples anyway, LOL.


24 posted on 02/11/2009 12:28:47 AM PST by Mogwai (You say "far right" like that's a bad thing!)
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To: sofaman
I find it remarkable that a nation surrounded by those that wish their extermination can actually afford to experiment with leftist and pacifist parties. Weird.
25 posted on 02/11/2009 1:07:10 AM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Sam Gamgee

Livini is weak and unstable, and she has already shown us what she can do which is nothing. Livini can be manipulated, and this is just what the Palestinians want.


26 posted on 02/11/2009 1:18:15 AM PST by tessalu
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To: Sam Gamgee

Livini is weak and unstable, and she has already shown us what she can do which is nothing. Livini can be manipulated, and this is just what the Palestinians want.


27 posted on 02/11/2009 1:19:08 AM PST by tessalu
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To: sofaman

Joe needs to wise up in regard to this nation, too.

I am stunned he sees the truth on that side of the ocean but still aligns with the lies on this side.


28 posted on 02/11/2009 2:09:17 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Cicero
Interesting to see what kind of a stand Shas will take on this

Yid with Lid classifies Shas as "right wing" Read Here which makes me assume it is more likely to form a coalition with Likud. Go Bibi!

29 posted on 02/11/2009 6:27:18 AM PST by Former Fetus
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Wrong Lieberman. This is Avigdor Lieberman, the guy that came in 3rd


30 posted on 02/11/2009 6:53:03 AM PST by sofaman (Moses dragged us through the desert for 40 years to the one place in the ME with no oil - Golda Meir)
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To: Mogwai

Apparently Lieberman wants to secularize a few key areas, for instance allowing for civil marriages. That could be a deal breaker with Shas. Labor and Kadima are even more secular, but they have been willing to compromise with Shas on such matters, as well as give them good deals on welfare benefits. We’ll see.


31 posted on 02/11/2009 7:34:11 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: sofaman

I am pleased National Union is doing OK.

They are probably the closest to what I would call a “federalist conservative” party in Israel, at least on paper.

Not sure how close to their espoused positions the actual representatives get.


32 posted on 02/11/2009 7:39:40 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: Cicero

Here is for everybody to observe the difference between parliamentary negotiations and our 2-party system. They (Israel in this case) vote for the party closest to their interests. After the elections, bazaar starts when principals and promises get compromised or at best moderated in order to be included in the government. Even the vote winner has no luxury to do what they want (unless they win more than 50% that never happens). Some small narrow parties don’t even clear the minimum, so the votes for them are totally lost.

In our binary system its different. The fact that we don’t like it neither is besides the point, I am stating the facts. All negotiations are done on the Primary elections level. After that its just one of two (and usually you pick a least worst choice). Our problem is that we don’t have clearly defined factions with leadership and program, and more rely on personalities.

If conservatives want to get to power, the only way to do it is by creating a faction within a Republican coalition (I can’t call it a party, its too big for that). A faction, or a voting block: when some voters unite around a cohesive plan and a structure - not the GOP state machine (its too entrenched into status quo), but more similar to a candidate machine that temporarily pops into existence, but in this case should stay put. (btw Dems have something of this kind: more stable voting blocks of Unions, and interest groups, that conservatives don’t have in such organized form).

There is no system that can allow purity that so many freepers want AND still allow to win wide elections.


33 posted on 02/11/2009 8:37:13 AM PST by Tolik
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To: sofaman

Oh. Thanks. Sorry I didn’t read; knee jerk reaction on my part.


34 posted on 02/11/2009 10:53:20 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Cicero

Eheu, Tulli! Gratias ago.


35 posted on 02/11/2009 2:38:00 PM PST by Mogwai (You say "far right" like that's a bad thing!)
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