Posted on 02/08/2009 11:28:01 AM PST by Red in Blue PA
Welcome aboard N00bDesertRhino Since May 30, 2008
You know it; I know it; the police know it; the DA knows it.
Unfortunately, the DA also knows that there are enough idiots that he won't be able to keep off the jury, that a murder conviction ain't going to happen.
Manslaughter is provable and convictable.
It is the evil varient on "rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6":
"I'd rather do 0-7 for planned stupidity, than 25-life for provably planning it."
Or the guy recently who was having a "break-up" liason with his estranged wife and just happened, while in the throes of passion, to jostle the loaded pistol on his nightstand. It, of course, "went off," putting a bullet in the woman's head.
Too many trial baloons!
I assume *somehow* that must be aimed at me. Anyway though, I completely agree with the Reagan Quote. And i note that YOU seem to “know” that a Negligent Discharge is different from an Accidental Discharge. And like the Gipper, i don’t think you are ignorant. I already told you, if the term change makes you happy, and puts a magic safety shield around you, then im happy for you.
I see it as just another semantics game. The causes and cures of the BANG we don’t want to occur will still be *exactly* the same, no matter what you decide to name it. Even if the call it that at thunder ranch or gunsite!
He looks capable of murder in that photo.
if he pleads guilty to the manslaughter, I might begin to believe that this wasn't intentional.
Whatever sport, i’ve lurked here for years. Signed up long ago but it didn’t take. Ask bill gates the reason but it reasigned my start date last year sometime. A young one like you might be able to explain it.
And you seem to have run out of legitimate arguments, my start date being your last resort. Besides, my life start, and conservative start dates beats yours,,,moron.
If even half of your stories are true, or all of them are only half true, you have lived an amazingly exciting and interesting life!
Even if they are only true in the larger sense, my hat is still off to you.
Would you care to put some money on that date ? Son. You demonstrate your intelligence when you call names
How likely is it that he just murdered her?
You mean like when you decided to call me noob? It was *you* who decided calling me noob was the best way to refute an argument. Your intelligence was on full parade then, if you had an agument that refuted mine, im sure i would have heard that instead, boy. A signup date does not equal a trump card.
In any care, you are being unneccesarily rude. Which you started doing when you started shouting to Capt74 how discharges cannot possibly be accidental. He used a common term, in the normal way.
Always *possible*, but nobody has a motive, and her family doesn’t think so.
Have a wonderful day; Son
And on the date,,yeah, im sure. And 100% sure if you are older than me, it aint by much sport.
and its funny, you act like a liberal, don’t bother to refute my argument, just see if you can discredit me personally somehow. Very,,”DU” of you.
Why the rudeness?
Semantics, h377.
Accidental discharges get your shorts wet.
Negligent discharges get someone pregnant.
Same with weapons. Accident and negligent are not the same.
Accident implies that beyond one’s control, despite best courses of action followed, it still happened.
Negligent implies lack of good judgement resulted in unintended consequences.
I understand your point. And I still respectfully think it’s the same concept. It’s common to call things “accidents” when they are really well within our control.
Every car accident is actually somebodys negligence. But we call them accidents every day.
Anyway, the larger issue, my point anyway, is that his unsafe gun handling, and not following standard gun safety rules, resulted in the heartbreak of him killing his wife of 3 months. Calling it negligent doesnt change how he should have handled the gun IMO. The standard rules for preventing an “accidental” discaharge are exactly the same as for an “ND”.
Her parents called it an “accident”, its a common term.
I dunno about this guy.
I’m not buying the accident thing. You would never even release the trigger inside a building without unloading the gun and carefully checking the chamber first.
The text of the article says he had just loaded the gun. There is no way you would point it at a loved one and pull the trigger in that or any other case.
I suspect either severe drunkenness or something else here.
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