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State bureaucracy causing problems for gun owners
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| 3 February, 2009
| Pete Nickeas
Posted on 02/04/2009 3:45:55 AM PST by marktwain
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To: doodad
I agree, and I wasn’t slamming your statement. Just pointing out that justice delayed, or too expensive, is not justice at all. The deck is stacked against the little guy!
In my perfect world anyone would be allowed to own and carry a firearm. The crime would be in the way it was used, not who owns it. In my world it would be a much greater deterrent knowing that using a firearm in committing a crime would mean certain punishment. And in some instances just brandishing the firearm would be a crime.
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posted on
02/04/2009 7:00:28 AM PST
by
jwparkerjr
(God Bless America!)
To: Joe Boucher
Well, of course not. Especially in NJ!
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posted on
02/04/2009 7:15:07 AM PST
by
whatexit
To: jwparkerjr
Well yeah, except that would actually make sense.
The way the laws work here are that you need a firearms ID card to purchase anything. If you want to purchase a handgun, ya need to apply for a handgun purchase permit which (once they get around to approving) is valid for 90 days.
Our first permits and ID applications took 8 (hers) & 12 (mine) weeks. A month later we applied for additional handgun purchase permits - this was the week before Thanksgiving.
Ya know things are grim when the state policeman comments, ‘get em while you can’.
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posted on
02/04/2009 7:22:46 AM PST
by
whatexit
To: marktwain
"Gun owners can't go shooting, can't go hunting, can't buy ammo, and can't legally own a gun. They're caught in a problem with the state police not complying with their own law,"
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posted on
02/04/2009 7:26:28 AM PST
by
bamahead
(Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; ...
"Gun owners can't go shooting, can't go hunting, can't buy ammo, and can't legally own a gun. They're caught in a problem with the state police not complying with their own law,"
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posted on
02/04/2009 7:26:42 AM PST
by
bamahead
(Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
To: marktwain
Someone please tell me, did the states have FOID’s at the founding of this country in the 1700’s? No?
In the 1800’s? No?
Early 1900’s? No?
Someone please explain to me how this is Constiutional. What part of “shall not be infringed” is ambiguous?
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posted on
02/04/2009 7:37:59 AM PST
by
Red in Blue PA
(If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
To: marktwain
I guess I should send mine in soon, it expires in 2012!
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posted on
02/04/2009 7:38:44 AM PST
by
KEVLAR
To: marktwain; All
Everyone who is not already a member needs to join the NRA and the GOA!
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posted on
02/04/2009 7:40:17 AM PST
by
Red in Blue PA
(If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
To: whatexit
“by law they must approve or deny within 30 days. Its been 8 weeks so far.”
So since they are not complying with the law, I assume they will face consequences/sarc
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posted on
02/04/2009 7:42:22 AM PST
by
Red in Blue PA
(If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
To: marktwain
Thank God I live in Texas and away from idiot states like this.
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posted on
02/04/2009 7:43:13 AM PST
by
Centurion2000
(01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
To: whatexit
Hey whatexit move to Virginia!
We have a very active and quite successful gun rights group.
Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc.
(VCDL). VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization dedicated to defending the human rights of all Virginians. The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is a fundamental human right.
VCDL web page: http://www.vcdl.org
We have a processing time limit in the law too.
Miss the 45 day limit on process and they have to give you the permit.
Signed SWO
Formerly NJTP exits 163 - 165
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posted on
02/04/2009 8:02:04 AM PST
by
SWO
To: marktwain
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posted on
02/04/2009 10:55:37 AM PST
by
Darwin Fish
(God invented evolution. Man invented religion.)
To: marktwain
can’t legally OWN a gun?
is that desk jocky smoking in the evidence locker?!!!!!!
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posted on
02/04/2009 11:20:08 AM PST
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: bruoz
Lived in Florida about 35 years so far.
Have visited 49 other states and though I’d live in any before any other country I’ll stay in Florida.
Its govt is like any other, ineffective.
I think you miss the point of getting a c.c.w. It is so I can have protection for my family and self wherever I happen to be.
4 months is too long a wait.
Where in Florida are ya and how long ya been here?
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posted on
02/04/2009 1:34:36 PM PST
by
Joe Boucher
(An enemy of Islam)
To: whatexit
My wife and I are waiting for handgun purchase permits in NJ - by law they must approve or deny within 30 days. Its been 8 weeks so far.Or... what? What happens after eight weeks or 30 days or whatever? Does the State of New Jersey face any sort of penalties if they don't come through?
To: JenB
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posted on
02/04/2009 1:35:59 PM PST
by
Joe Boucher
(An enemy of Islam)
To: JenB
JenB,
Where abouts in Florida are you’se guys living?
And congratulations on your nuptuels.
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posted on
02/04/2009 1:37:57 PM PST
by
Joe Boucher
(An enemy of Islam)
To: supercat
Even people who keep guns locked away in their homes while they await their FOID renewal are in technical violation and can be charged with a misdemeanor....To buy a firearm or ammo, or to transport an assembled firearm on a public right of way, the statute explicitly requires a current and valid FOID. To merely possess a firearm within one's dwelling, the statute requires a FOID previously issued by the state police. The use of the terms "current and valid" in one context but not the other has a logical meaning. Thanks for pointing that out, it's also my understanding that after expiration, you're not in violation in your home as long as you're applied for renewal. Just don't take a firearm out of your house.
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posted on
02/04/2009 1:40:45 PM PST
by
SJackson
(most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
To: Joe Boucher
"Where in Florida are ya and how long ya been here"Tampa. Life long=60 years come September. It's supposed to take 90 days but like I said its busy in Tallahassee right now. You should have yours any day now. Hope you never need it.
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posted on
02/05/2009 3:05:21 PM PST
by
bruoz
To: bruoz
I hope so also.
I lived in Carrolwood for two years then Davis Island for 5.
First went there in 1969 when you could walk across streets downtown and not even think about getting hit. And the airport looked more like a bus station.
Loved Davis Island, always busy with the airport, two marinas, the ship channel and all. Great place as a kid.
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posted on
02/06/2009 3:44:46 AM PST
by
Joe Boucher
(An enemy of Islam)
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