Mississippi Most Religious State, Vermont the Least (Gallup Poll of 350,000)

Digtriad ^ | Jan 30,2009

[SeekAndFind]

Poverty by the world’s standards is not poverty by God’s.

How does that square with this ?

Those who listen to instruction will prosper; those who trust the LORD will be happy. – Proverbs 16:20

To acquire wisdom is to love oneself; people who cherish understanding will prosper. – Proverbs 19:8 Hard work means prosperity; only fools idle away their time. – Proverbs 12:11

Lazy people want much but get little, but those who work hard will prosper and be satisfied. – Proverbs 13:4

Good planning and hard work lead to prosperity, but hasty shortcuts lead to poverty. – Proverbs 21:5

[Bunkasaurus]

Yep, without them colored folks Mississippi would be like Eden.
Heck, even better, it might even be like...Connecticut!

[wardaddy]

Yep, without them colored folks Mississippi would be like Eden.

hardly but a much lower crime and illegitimacy rate

[wardaddy]

I guess the fact that I am 6th generation Mississippian who lived there from 1959-1984 and who still has hundreds of family members there who attend church regularly makes me less an authority than a Yankee freeper with a grudge against Christianity and whatever?

It has been my observation that blacks in Mississippi in urban areas do not attend the same as whites, as I have stated elsewhere I believe rural blacks do but that could be old news.

You have cherry picked an article to push your thread that religious attendance and low crime are not synonymous by picking a state with the highest black population percentage in the nation.

And then you wonder why folks challenge your ignorance about the facts?

Why didn't you pick Utah?

Big church, low crime.

What's the difference tween Mississippi and Utah?

btw what sorta conservative are you who gets his kicks disparaging Christianity and our most diehard conservative voting bloc?

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

A 1990 study by the left-wing Progressive Policy Institute showed that, after controlling for single motherhood, the difference in black and white crime disappeared—Ann Coulter.

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Coulter: MURDER SPREE BY PEOPLE WHO REFUSE TO ASK FOR DIRECTIONS (Single Mothers/Stats)
AnnCoulter.Com ^ | January 14, 2009 | Ann Coulter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2164583/posts

[wardaddy]

--- HIGH CRIME RATES AND HIGH OUT OF WEDLOCK PREGNANCY RATES IN MISSISSIPPI ARE UNCORRELATED WITH RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ( BLACK OR WHITE ).

Mississippi does not have a high illegitimat5e white birth rate.

I did not say Mississiipi's black people are irreligous, I said they are less regular church goers than whites except in rural areas where they still cling to the old ways

Drive thru the ghetto on Sunday morning....see for your self. Drive by an old clapboard church in Sugar Ditch...it's likely to be crammed with bloack folks in their Sunday finest. Another note for you is that black churches are overwhlemingly female. If you went to church down here or knew anything about us outside what you've seen in Walter Hill movies you'd know this.

[wardaddy]

which explains why when I was a lad black parts of town were quite safe and the black family still existed male-headed

and more black males were faithful Christians

why on earth this has to be explained to a fellow conservative is amazing?

[Yudan]

The religiousness and immorality are what we, who actually have studied statistics, call “spurious correlation.”

I’ll give you an example. It’s like saying that increased alcohol consumption per capita from 1935-1990 (fact) and higher per capita sales of cigars from 1935-1990 (also fact) caused a decline in heart related death per capita from 1935-1990 (fact). See? Assuming causality based on those stats ignores a LOT of other data (more people exercise, the development of pharmaceutical intervention...)

So here we go: Evengelical Protestantism has always been widespread in the South. I would doubt the level of population percentage who adhere to that type of faith had changed much since Reconstruction.

To immorality: The true driver of crime rate statistic that drives the “immorality” is the out-of wedlock birthrate and the lack of male role models. The destruction of the family.

This is the Great Society in action. Thank you to Lyndon Baines “We’ll have these n****rs voting Democrat for the next 300 years” Johnson.

Here’s your equation, S/F:
1. Welfare has destroyed not just the black family, but the family dynamic in much of the lower income strata more generally by incentivizing immoral behavior through increased government handouts per child, hence increased illegitimacy, and one-parent homes.
2. Male children without a strong positive male role model tend to make poor decisions, which often includes irresponsible behavior and criminal activity. Bitterness, and the desire to achieve status quickly - like drug trafficking....which is HIGHLY profitable until you get caught, apparently. Guys who flash lots of cash are able to get lots of women....there’s a vicious cycle here...I refer you to ANY rap video.
3. Mississippi has a large black population comparatively, but also a high level of poverty overall irregardless of race. The land doesn’t have a high population density because the soil in much of the state is ill-suited for much other than agriculture - hence it never invited much industrial development, post civil war. You see, the money never really came after the agrarian economy died with reconstruction....

See where I’m going with all this?

One really has nothing to do with the other, religion and crime....

So don’t be a simp and assume causation or even correlation.

[Dionysius]

It’s the “D” word, the most sacred in the Democrat lexicon — Diversity!

[dixiechick2000]

SeekAndFind, I don't have much to add to wardaddy's and Yudan's posts except to point out that you can google and yahoo all you want, but you won't see the real truth unless you've experienced it. Yudan, wardaddy, and I have experienced Mississippi personally for many, many years.

I do want to say that Mississippi is not one of the most generous wrt charity, it is THE most generous, despite low incomes.

Too, while there may be a high out of wedlock pregnancy rate, this is primarily because they don't compound their mistake by having an abortion. There is only one abortion clinic in Mississippi, and it's been in dire straits for years. The day that they go belly-up can't come soon enough for me.

Heck...Mississippi even has a pro-life license plate.

I suspect there are many other states with an out of wedlock pregnancy rate as high, or higher, than Mississippi, but they clean up their mistakes by killing their unborn babies.