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US Arrests Financier in Purported $400 Million Scam [Nicholas Cosmo]
Reuters via CNBC ^ | January 26, 2009 | Reuters

Posted on 01/27/2009 1:20:04 AM PST by CutePuppy

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Ponzi scheme posing as bridge loan outfit - shades of Norman Hsu...
1 posted on 01/27/2009 1:20:06 AM PST by CutePuppy
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To: CutePuppy

Bridge financing would be an ideal vehicle for Ponzi Schemes. If all goes well there would be plenty of churn, enough to disguise the Ponzi nature of the scheme. And well-run, most of it could even be “legit”.


2 posted on 01/27/2009 1:27:55 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: CutePuppy
Why is this even news? A measly $400 million — that's over an order of magnitude less than Madoff’s $50 billion. It barely registers on the scale, compared to the multi-trillion dollar bailout and stimulus packages. Strictly amateur hour — maybe good for an episode of Cops; but, that's about it. /s
3 posted on 01/27/2009 1:40:24 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Exactly.

Norman Hsu had a “legit” one just like that - combined with money laundering to politicos from “sugar daddy” somewhere overseas. If it were not for his past and criminal record compounded by minor mistakes he could have wound down the “pipeline” scheme at any time after it was no longer needed.

That’s why he didn’t have an “exit strategy” - none was necessary, it was not supposed to go on indefinitely, just long enough to transfer enough for favored campaigns.


4 posted on 01/27/2009 1:48:57 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
maybe good for an episode of Cops; but, that's about it. /s

True, and it did make me feel so small for even contemplating to post this. So, in trying to bulk up the overall amount, I found the article that mentions several recent schemes, in addition to this minor one (by comparison to Madoff).

Madoffs with $50B compounded over several decades don't come up quite that often. Neither were Enron and WorldCom. Wonder if we'll see the Wall Street 2 or Madoff: The Smartest Guys in the Room, with a cast of explicitly greedy and corrupt Democrats... Naah!

5 posted on 01/27/2009 2:07:49 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

You sir, in a nutshell, have described exactly what built the false derivatives economy on a global basis.


6 posted on 01/27/2009 2:34:50 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Actually more than two orders of magnitude smaller than Madoff. log10(50e9/400e6)~2.1.

It’s interesting because it shows that Madoff was far from the only one. There are lots of these scamsters out there, the public should be made aware of it. Madoff was just their king.


7 posted on 01/27/2009 2:44:35 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The death cult wants death, the Israelis want peace. I, for one, see only one solution.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Of course, you're right. How embarrassing! I've frequently ranted here about the innumeracy in the MSM -- hoist by my own petard, I guess.
8 posted on 01/27/2009 9:57:56 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: DieHard the Hunter; CutePuppy
"Bridge loan"-----ROTFLOL.

Think of all the implications of the term---this conman must be a student of Alfred North Whitehead.

"Bridge loan"-----that is one heckofa dead metaphor.

He took it several steps farther----pictures on Agape's website would have investors believe that they funded the San Francisco Bay Bridge, the Taipei 101 Tower, and the Tower of Babylon, and the Baghdad Railroad...........

Some people will believe anything.

9 posted on 01/27/2009 12:57:37 PM PST by Liz (The right to be left alone is the beginning of freedom. USSC Justice William O. Douglas)
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Arthur Nadel of Florida-based Scoop Management, was reported missing early January. He left behind a suicide note expressing guilt for losing his clients' money and said someone might try to kill him. The SEC charged him with fraud saying the six hedge funds Nadel oversaw, valued at more than $300M, actually contain less than $1Mmillion.

NADEL'S SECOND STRIKE; FAKE CPA DISCOVERED
By KAJA WHITEHOUSE, NY POST, 1/12/09

The accountant for missing Sarasota, Fla., hedge manager Arthur Nadel was slapped with a cease-and-desist order in 1999 for unlawfully practicing as a certified public accountant...... Michael Zucker, 71, was officially touted as the accountant and CPA of Nadel's hedge-fund firm, Scoop Management, according to documents obtained by The Post.

But Zucker, who's wife Caroline chairs the Sarasota County School Board, hasn't been licensed to work as a Florida CPA since 1989, according to state documents. Ten years after his Florida license expired, Zucker was slapped with a cease-and-desist order for practicing with a null-and-void license, an official with the Florida Board of Accountancy confirmed.

While it's legal to operate as an unlicensed accountant in Florida, promoting oneself as a CPA without an official license is against the law, the official said. Also, Florida requires CPAs to be licensed in the state in order to call themselves CPAs, the official said. Authorities are entering their eighth day in the search for Nadel, who is suspected of swindling Scoop Management investors out of as much as $350 million. Nadel has been on the lam since he left for work early last Wednesday, attracting the attention of the FBI and the SEC.

SNIP---Nadel's partner Neil Moody confirmed that Zucker was the firm's official accountant and CPA. Moody said he thought Zucker was a CPA registered in New York, but public records show Zucker also let his New York CPA license expire, although it's not clear when. Scoop Management fund documents list Zucker's lakeside Sarasota home as his business address, but some neighbors said they had no idea Zucker was running a business out of his home or that he was an accountant. One neighbor said she thought Zucker was retired.

SOURCE http://www.nypost.com/seven/01212009/business/nadels_second_strike_151069.htm

10 posted on 01/27/2009 1:10:25 PM PST by Liz (The right to be left alone is the beginning of freedom. USSC Justice William O. Douglas)
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> Some people will believe anything.

And some people are too gullible to be trusted with money. Not even their weekly allowance.


11 posted on 01/27/2009 1:24:39 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Liz
It's a new twist on the "I have a bridge for sale..." con.

The new spiel is "I have a bridge loan for you... You get the bridge with no money down".

12 posted on 01/27/2009 1:38:56 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

“Bridge Loan” in the popular lexicon also means a short-term loan that a person or company takes out until they can secure permanent financing or can remove an impediment to permanent financing.


13 posted on 01/27/2009 2:44:54 PM PST by Liz (The right to be left alone is the beginning of freedom. USSC Justice William O. Douglas)
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To: Liz

I know. In some circles it’s colloquially called loan sharking. Apparently, my feeble attempt of making a pun on the “bridge” word association in this case was less obvious and funny than I thought it might be... Oh well, back to school.


14 posted on 01/27/2009 3:21:11 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: RSmithOpt
... what built the false derivatives economy on a global basis.

Actually, I thought that the key word for that would be "insurance", of viaticals variety, with the total value of insurance settlements comprising multiples of underlying value (which no sane insurance company would ever underwrite).

15 posted on 01/27/2009 3:32:05 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

Makes me wonder to ever trust anyone in “investment banking”, I mean colluded theft.


16 posted on 01/27/2009 4:27:25 PM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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Don't wonder and don't trust... or "Trust but verify".
17 posted on 01/27/2009 5:03:16 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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Bingo!!! CutePuppy sounds more like a wise old dog.


18 posted on 01/27/2009 5:26:19 PM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Liz

Sounds like quite a few got ‘O-Zuckerfried’!!


19 posted on 01/27/2009 5:28:21 PM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

LOL.

For a second there, I thought you were serious.

Thanks for the /s

;-)


20 posted on 01/27/2009 5:31:44 PM PST by fanfan
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