Posted on 01/19/2009 6:37:56 PM PST by flattorney
Why can’t they just do the vote over again?!?!?!?
Good.
Its about time Rs took the gloves off.
No, he's not any better than Franken, he's worse because he can destroy the Republican party from within. The loser Franken can't touch it!
"Don't make the perfect the enemy of the good."-Morton Blackwell
I'd advise you think about this.
It has been thought about a long time and with republican introspection since 2006. The party fails with moderates and rino. Those of you who still think the republican party is better off with rino's are failing the conservatives. I am a conservative which says, I don't want your vote any more just to put a loser moderate/rino in office to defeat republicans from within. No moderate/rino is better than a liberal. Especially a kookie, no nothing, dumbass like Fraken.
You think about it!
yeah, you keep telling yourself that.
>>If they can double count FRanken ballots, Heck, let’s open anything that even looks like a valid ballot..<<
What a concept.... to actually count all the absentee ballots in an election that could be decided by a few votes.
1) Coleman is a Republican. He is the only kind of Republican who can win in somewhat liberal Minnesota, and as a Republican he casts the most important vote of any Senate session for a Republican to be leader (and who thus defines what bills are even voted on). No other vote he casts is as important as that one so no other position he takes can trump it.
2) We are in the minority. The chest beating swaggering yells about “I only support a Conservative (with a capital C)” is a position that advances the opposition’s agenda. It takes numbers to stop their agenda. You can start to worry about your own agenda when and only when you have the numbers to advance it. We don’t. Capital C conservatives would not win in Minnesota. Ronald Reagan did not win Minnesota. A Republican Senate vote from Minnesota is a thing of gold.
3) Support Norm Coleman’s fight.
Precisely. That's how we got a weak John McCain as our candidate (as opposed to a conservative candidate who could actually win, like Rudy), and now BHO.
Do you really think the Republican Party can be strictly ultra conservative? Why not form a new party called the God Party?
Without us Reagan conservatives, the evangelicals will only polarize the middle and that’s what elects Presidents. So get real on what you wish for or you’ll be seeing Obozo, then Hillary running the country
I agree with you but it is hard to support any of these buffoons. Today there is word that “our” senators will go along with unanimous consent for husseins cabinet co defendants
One acts like he may have a spine and you suggest he shouldn’t waste his time or money.He is fighting back, I agree. We should support him.
Rudy? Rudy??????
Yep.
SirchTruth posted: Personally, I could care less if the rino Coleman wins or looses. We have a bigger problem in the GOP/RNC of getting rid of the moderate/rino's of which Coleman is one!
With all respect, these type of statements do not reflect the situation or the position of the “New GOP”. The New GOP’s platform will be disclosed after CPAC 2009. The Papa Bush Cartel destroyed the National GOP, not Norm Coleman or other specific moderate Republicans. We got stuck with John “RINO & Traitor” McCain for President because of the PBC and no other reason. As of today, the PBC’s control of the National GOP is history and it’s a new era for Republicans that truly care about our great Country. Below is a re-post of the Coleman election and related facts in this matter. Hope this is of benefit. Excellent post Owen. ~ TAB
01.07.09 FlAttorney Says: # SNIP # . . . many of the comments bashing both Republican Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty and Senator Coleman ignore the facts that both are moderate Republicans in a liberal Democrat State. It is important to remember that both Republican’s Governor Pawlenty and Lieutenant Governor Carol Molnau have significant combined Minnesota political experience. However, Minnesota has continued to become an increasingly ultra liberal Democrat State this decade. As MN Secretary of State Democrat Mark “former? Communist and Soros Puppet” Ritchie, both MN Attorney General Democrat Lori Swanson and MN’s other U.S. Senator, Democrat Amy Klobuchar, were only elected to office on Nov. 7, 2006. Klobuchar was elected as a freshman Senator to the 110th U.S. Congress and is a major ultra liberal. The facts that Minnesota is a liberal Democrat State is further demonstrated:
Minnesota Presidential Winners
1992: Bill Clinton(D)
1996: Bill Clinton(D)
2000: Al Gore(D)
2004: John Kerry(D)
2008: Barack Obama(D)
Does anyone really believe that an FR approved conservative Republican can get elected as MN Governor or U.S. Senator? Does anyone really believe that if Norm Coleman was more conservative he would have beaten Al Franken, and the National GOP would not be in this mess? It is also important to understand that until Governor Pawlenty certifies the election results, the Coleman-Franken U.S. Senate seat will remain vacant. Pawlenty will not certify the election until the conclusion of the legal process. If Coleman cannot obtain appropriate legal relief in the State Courts, then he will go to the Federal Courts, which is what many “GOP Interests” are gearing up for.
One week after the November 4, 2008 elections, Gov. Pawlenty was here in Miami for the Republican Governors Conference. I assure everyone, the private discussions with him were not about our nice weather, Gov. Palin, or Pawlenty’s ideology for the “New GOP”. To-date, he is doing what is both responsible and necessary in this Coleman-Franken fiasco. Further, Pawlenty is not going to do anything stupid in this matter, nor would he be asked to on Coleman’s account.
Further, Gov. Pawlenty is one of 16 of 22 State Governors who terms expire in 2010. Eight cannot seek reelection due to term limits. While he has not made an official statement, Pawlenty is expected to run for MN Governor in 2010. The Democrats-Soros Shadow Party are already gearing up to drag Pawlenty down and elect a Democrat as Governor. Like many States, Pawlenty is currently dealing with a major MN State budget deficit of $426 million, with even deeper deficit projected for the next two years. Of the 2010 Governor races, Pawlenty’s will be one of the most difficult and very expensive. In short, political capital and strategies must be evaluated on both a macro and micro basis. # SNIP # - FlA
Source: 01.08.09: The Stealing the (Minnesota U.S. Senate) Election Project + Latest Coleman News & FlAttorney's Comments
TAB
Based on your comment I expanded the previous posted list. But, some people don't want to be confused by the facts :-) ~ TAB
Minnesota Presidential Winners
2008: Barack Obama(D)
2004: John Kerry(D)
2000: Al Gore(D)
1996: Bill Clinton(D)
1992: Bill Clinton(D)
1988: Michael Dukakis(D)
1984: Walter Mondale(D) (Only State Mondale won)
1980: Jimmy Carter(D) (1 of 5 States Carter won)
1976: Jimmy Carter(D)
1972: Richard Nixon(R)
# END #
We'll see about the new GOP platform, I hope you're correct, but everything I've read says Republican leaders are more determined than ever to get along and go along with the Democrats.
As for me, if not for Sarah Palin, I would have stayed home on election night for the first time since I became eligible to vote in 1973. McCain is the last rino I will ever vote for.
I understand Pawlenty's problem, I live in Minnesota, but it's one thing to try and find a little middle ground in a liberal state, Pawlenty has embraced, promoted, signed legislation and been baptized into Al Gore's global warming religion. No Thanks! I'd rather fight against a real Democrat than beg a Republican to what's correct.
Norm's positions advanced the oppositions agenda as well.
About the first thing Norm did after getting elected a Republican Senator was to come out publicly against the Bush tax cuts. Norm did vote for the tax cuts after we lit up his switchboard with calls, but that's not what we should have to do.
Norm is also right on board with Nancy Pelosi's agenda to starve us of abundant cheap energy and force us to scarce expensive energy.
At every turn Norm's first impulse is to side with the opposition, I'm done voting for that.
A sincere question, what Republican leadership and Republican Party institutional changes have been made that will drive this new direction of the "New GOP"?
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