Posted on 01/18/2009 10:34:57 AM PST by Graybeard58
I agree with most of the posters on here, but would sum it up as follows:
1.) Do not bitch about the cost of an Ivy League education. We don’t want to hear it.
2.) A college education is not the end-all be-all to success in life.
3.) How you approach your education and what you do with your knowledge for an employer is more important than where you went and how much you paid.
4.) If a parent is assuming the entire cost of the education without requiring the student to work and contribute, do not bitch. We don’t want to hear it.
I got my degree from a state college after spending four years in the Navy. My parents gave me free room and board, but I had a job the entire time and commuted to school.
I think I provide quality work and good value for my employer, and even though I got degrees in both Nuclear Medicine and Chemistry, I have never, ever used my BS in Chemistry, and stopped working in Nuclear Medicine in 1996. What I learned in college that was useful was not how to titrate a solution or calculate how much isotope would decay over time. What was useful was learning how to think things through and analyze a problem.
What are tuckpointers? Never heard of that trade.
Bricklayers.
In our climate the mortar between bricks gets beat up pretty bad, so every year we will have at least one exterior wall that needs the mortar to be filled in.
I find it so educational to talk with some of these tradesmen. They remember communism first hand.
I dunno about that, I didn't go to college and I had to wait 'til I was 54 to retire.
The bottom line is, if you work hard, you get to go to college. Not every person who skates through HS with Cs and Ds is going to cut it.
The bottom line is, if you work hard, you get to go to college. Not every person who skates through HS with Cs and Ds is going to cut it.
I wish more teachers had that attitude. I rarely read anything, although I took lots of notes in class. I spent way to much time cramming for exams rather than "learning" the material.
Same thing here, the girl had her brain eaten in college.
this was the rate 20 years ago in nebraska, to the best of my recollection. It’s probably doubled by now, I suppose.
Oh, the humanity!!!!
Mark
I agree completely... Something that takes skill, education, and can't be sent overseas...
A career as an electrician, plumber, or HVAC. Or becoming a skilled carpenter, though depending on your area, the market may be flooded with illegal aliens, mostly unskilled. But it will still dilute the market.
All of these are terrific careers, and you can make a great living at them, though it can be hard, dirty work.
Mark
He can go any college he wants to all he has to do is tell them that he Mexican and everything will be free works that way in mexifornia.
I doubt that. The Baby Boomers who had more education had fewer children.
[I'm going to assume that your class is taught in a run-of-the-mill lecture format, i.e., professor lectures, students take notes, etc.]
Put yourself in your students' shoes for one moment. If all you are doing is asking a question, that's fine, but if you are openly "peppering" them with questions, you are walking a fine line between testing a student's knowledge (in possibly a Socratic way?) and outright humiliating him in front of his peers.
Education is a business, and teachers (professors, instructors, and so forth) are delivering a service to their students. And, I, for one, would drop out of a class if the instructor openly treated me in a condescending manner. [That said, I wouldn't call the instructor obscene names to his or her face; that's just nasty.]
Depends on the major, on the professors, and...on who the student associates with, within his or her peer group, at the school.
Smart kid was conservative until college.
I was a raging Big Government neocon Bushbot/McCainiac when I got to UVA. [Hell, I would have agreed wholeheartedly with McCain's positions on amnesty, bailouts, wars, etc. at that time.]
I am not sure if it was solely due to college ethics coursework, but after getting my first paycheck (replete with line items for taxes withheld) and running into a few financial bumps along the road, I didn't swing just "conservative"...I swung libertarian.
As for the rest of this thread, I am a tad disheartened by some Freepers' attitude towards formal education. Going to college can be a good thing, so long as you recognize that it's just a means towards achieving your life goals and that taking out loans to the tune of $30K+/year for a Vanderbilt music degree is just plain silly. [Several of my friends are cases in point on that last one.] Of course, if you've got the cash to burn, by all means, go for it.
No worries, I was just having a little fun but forgot to add a little smiley face :)
Don't ever believe that. I was Valedictorian of my high school class, and a National Merit Finalist, but I went to a podunk high school way out in the sticks, and they simply didn't teach any advanced math. When I got to college, I had to take remedial math, and it was always a struggle to get caught up, but I did so. Got my BS , and then PhD in chemistry. And did that while paying my own way with scholarships and student jobs.
Bottom line---with motivation, it CAN be done.
this woman is an idiot who has no clue what she is talking about.
my son is a jr. in high school. we are constantly receiving notices from
private colleges informing us we can afford that school should our son be accepted.. they offer
grants which don’t have to be paid back and are available to even kids
in upper middle class. as mentioned, there are state universities, online
courses from colleges. any number of ways to get through school. but
she also seems to feel that going to college is meaningless now. so, help
me out here, does she want her kid to go to college?
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