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No-strings sex takes toll in UK
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | January 13, 2009 | Editorial

Posted on 01/13/2009 6:28:35 AM PST by Graybeard58

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To: swain_forkbeard
I understand your well founded point.

I would counter that a moral compass that can be shattered in the affairs of men (wars, etc.) is not a true thing and has a weak basis.

In the end, all morality must become personal. Human nature is a constant and something we often forget in our search for answers. Religion or the State alone cannot lead men to morality, but there must be something of the positive inherent in any philosophy to sustain it as such.

In a sense, true morality seeks perfection, and yet once again we must accept that human nature will seek the lowest, most comfortable level. That said, we all know the difference between right and wrong, and that understanding did not arrive with human thought.

It is a human failing that the strenght and leadership that are required to set things right often is the first victim of upheaval. Morality, or the moral compass if you will, is one of the easier things in any civilization to abandon, it's the easiest thing to rebel against. For this we have paid the price and will continue to pay.

What we see in our world today, and especially in civilized Europe is a pendulum swing. What will it take to start the swing to the other direction? History teaches us that lesson. Watch for it, expect it to happen. This century is young, but looking at the last one, what is past is prologue.

This is my opinion, take it for what it is worth.

Regards,
AR

101 posted on 01/13/2009 12:40:34 PM PST by alarm rider ("Father, let me dedicate all this year to thee". Lawrence Tuttiett (1825-1897))
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To: swain_forkbeard
Why so difficult to accept that the invention of the pill has changed the way people have sex?

I believe that sex has biochemical not to mention spiritual consequences beyond the obvious pro-creative and epidemiological aspects that we are only beginning to understand. I believe that the pill and other hormonal interventions, for instance, are in many cases destructive of the female sex drive.

1 Corinthians 6:18
Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

102 posted on 01/13/2009 12:54:29 PM PST by Theophilus (The people who were going to buy your home got aborted 30 years ago.)
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To: swain_forkbeard

I repeat - disgusted. Find a dictionary if you need one.


103 posted on 01/13/2009 1:11:45 PM PST by don-o (My son, Ben - Recruit training at Parris Island from October 20)
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To: Graybeard58
Researchers say Britain's ranking is empowering for women because it means they now are as able as men to engage in no-strings sex.

And if researches say that the grass is purple does that make it so? No. Women have always been "able" to engage in no-strings sex...it's the consequences that are a killer and no matter what researches say those aren't going to change. Empowering my fanny.
104 posted on 01/13/2009 1:24:06 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: dfwgator

I’ll be danged. That COULD be Jane Leeves. Her IMDB.com filmography says she started as one of “Hill’s Angels” in the early to mid-eighties.


105 posted on 01/13/2009 1:50:03 PM PST by sinanju
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To: don-o

You might be thinking that engaging in *extremely* personal activities with just any skank with a pulse is a pretty gross concept. My husband and I were discussing this concept just recently, and we agree.

Btw, how’s the recruit doing, bless his heart?


106 posted on 01/13/2009 3:00:21 PM PST by Tax-chick (To oppose the god of this world by lifting up Christ.)
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To: Tax-chick

Recruit may now be addressed as Marine! He received the title on Saturday upon completion of The Crucible. We’re off to P.I. tomorrow for Thursday Family Day then the Graduation on Friday!


107 posted on 01/13/2009 3:05:57 PM PST by don-o (My son, Ben - Recruit training at Parris Island from October 20)
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To: don-o; Mrs. Don-o

Wonderful! Congratulations to the Marine and his parents!

I guess you won’t pass through the Charlotte area; too bad. It’s supposed to reasonably pleasant in these parts over the weekend, though, although very cold in the mountains where my boys will be camping.


108 posted on 01/13/2009 3:42:01 PM PST by Tax-chick (To oppose the god of this world by lifting up Christ.)
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To: Poison Pill
Marriage restricts more bad than good and liberates more good than bad.

Agreed, but it has never been an absolute preventive measure for desire and the cheating to act on that desire. If it were not for adultery, country music would pretty much just be about crop failure.

109 posted on 01/13/2009 4:20:15 PM PST by hunter112 (We seem to be on an excrement river in a Native American watercraft without a propulsion device.)
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To: swain_forkbeard; Tax-chick; Theophilus
"Why so difficult to accept that the invention of the pill has changed the way people have sex?"

I was just thinking about the lyrics to the Leonard Cohen song Hallelujah, which was written some 20+ years ago but in the news recently because it was both the #1 and the #2 song in Britain, simulaneously, in different releases. Oh, looks like there's thousands of versions of it on YouTube, so I think I'm justified in saying it --- well, struck a chord.

My thought is that it's a good song, actually, and speaks about the profound human contact --- contact --- and transcendance that can be the inner experience of intercourse. It evokes love, loyalty, wonder, gratitude; it's a privileged metaphor for the touch and embrace of Divine love, a metaphor found in the Scriptures of many civilization-generating faiths, as well, of course, as in Leonard Cohen.

The sense is, that this is what it is supposed to be; this is what ennobles persons, what is solidly deep-down right---

and what falls short of this is, in Cohen's words, "cold," "broken," "it all went wrong," -- sad and disappointing.

That's what we sense where our intellect and our affect and what-we've-always-been-longing-for come together. A fucking shame, you might say.

Others have written well about the depressing spectacle of disease and dead babies and all that as a result of truncated sex, junk sex--- yes, it's true --- but there's also the cancer of loneliness and the callousing of souls.

In the light of which, the decline of your civilization seems an afterthought, something you hardly notice.

110 posted on 01/13/2009 4:44:38 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Viva sweet love.)
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To: Tax-chick; don-o

Thanks, I’m sure Don-o find some way of posting pictures of him, handsome, in his Dress Blues.


111 posted on 01/13/2009 4:48:52 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Semper Fi, as a matter of fact.)
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To: Cronos; nathanbedford

Theodore Dalrymple has written extensively on the underclass in Britain. See the list of his books:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/ref=ntt_athr_dp_sr_1?%5Fencoding=UTF8&search-type=ss&index=books&field-author=Theodore%20Dalrymple


112 posted on 01/13/2009 5:42:22 PM PST by happygrl (BORG: Barack 0bama Resistance Group: we will not be assimilated)
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To: Theophilus

While I agree with your post, I wonder if it’s not too late for us. And if it isn’t too late, what event or events could God use that would bring us back into the fold or would it be easier for Him to simply wipe the slate clean and start over? Are we worth it?


113 posted on 01/13/2009 6:03:23 PM PST by GBA
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To: swain_forkbeard
"Again - if our moral compass led us here, of what worth is our moral compass?"

Perhaps it is not the compass that failed, but the failure of the user to follow the compass.

114 posted on 01/13/2009 6:28:17 PM PST by GBA
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To: hunter112

Trains, trucks, gettin’ drunk. And for bluegrass topics, there’s the Civil War.


115 posted on 01/13/2009 6:38:55 PM PST by Tax-chick (To oppose the god of this world by lifting up Christ.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’ll look forward to seeing pictures of the stalwart young man in uniform. (And will recommend them to Anoreth, nice Catholic girl ;-). Der Prinz wore his Mess Dress when we were married, and looked just like a young Heinrich Himmler.


116 posted on 01/13/2009 6:40:33 PM PST by Tax-chick (To oppose the god of this world by lifting up Christ.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The young women who have the kids then drop them on Grandma for babysitting.


117 posted on 01/13/2009 7:25:49 PM PST by Ciexyz (Downloaded Ann Coulter's "Guilty" to my Amazon Kindle for $9.99 - 67% discount..)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Great Song! Great Post!

Malachi 2
13 And this have ye done again, covering the altar of the LORD with tears, with weeping, and with crying out, insomuch that he regardeth not the offering any more, or receiveth it with good will at your hand.
14 Yet ye say, Wherefore? Because the LORD hath been witness between thee and the wife of thy youth, against whom thou hast dealt treacherously: yet is she thy companion, and the wife of thy covenant.
15 And did not he make one? Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one? That he might seek a godly seed. Therefore take heed to your spirit, and let none deal treacherously against the wife of his youth.

118 posted on 01/14/2009 6:29:03 AM PST by Theophilus (The people who were going to buy your home got aborted 30 years ago.)
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To: GBA
Are we worth it?

Certainly not, but his love for us is not based on our merit but is established in it's own merit and hence it is irrevocable and imperishable and brings glory to Himself either in harmony with our actions or in spite of our actions.

119 posted on 01/14/2009 6:35:52 AM PST by Theophilus (The people who were going to buy your home got aborted 30 years ago.)
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To: Theophilus

Great Scripture! I had never red Malachi in the light of Leonard Cohen before.


120 posted on 01/14/2009 7:03:18 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It is our choices, far more than our abilities, that show us what we truly are. " -- J.K.Rowling)
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