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(Ron) Paul holds US liable for Gazans death
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Posted on 01/12/2009 2:10:47 PM PST by mnehring

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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Ron Paul used the phrase “aiding and abetting”. That phrase is usually used when someone is in the commission of committing a crime or has committed a crime. The Israelis are not committing any crimes but fighting, killing and capturing terrorists. Even the Fatah party blames Hamas. So yes, Ron Paul did slur the Israelis and the U.S.
41 posted on 01/12/2009 2:31:15 PM PST by utahson
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To: mnehrling

I’ve noticed that Paul supporters are anti-Semitic, isolationist, protectionist and conspiracy theorists. This guy was an embarrassment during the presidential debates.

He thinks that 9/11 is all our fault.

‘nuff said.


42 posted on 01/12/2009 2:31:21 PM PST by NoKoolAidforMe (1-20-13--Change we can look forward to)
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To: mnehrling
"I rise in opposition to this resolution, not because I am taking sides and picking who the bad guys are and who the good guys are."

"I'm looking at this more from the angle of being a United States citizen, an American, and I think resolutions like this really do us great harm," he added.


I hope the Israelis wipe every one of the bastards out but I see no wrong with the statements he made.

Why should we involve ourselves in this? The Israelis can handle themselves. In fact, when the US gets involved it usually prevents Israel from completing it's mission.

You guys need to direct that hate duely where it belongs, on the incoming administration.
43 posted on 01/12/2009 2:31:35 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: CaribouCrossing
What were those people thinking?

We were hoping to elect someone who still believed in limited gov't?

BTW I disagree vehemently with Paul on Israel.

44 posted on 01/12/2009 2:31:56 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: mnehrling

Ron is an ultra-moron. I bet he blames us for 9/11 too.


45 posted on 01/12/2009 2:33:16 PM PST by Big_Monkey
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To: mnehrling
Carter showed much liberal weakness and got the Lebanon barracks bombed and emboldened the muslems causing radicals to take over Iran and start blowing up the middle east. If Israel were to reply in kind they would sent 10,000 rockets randomly into the Gaza.
46 posted on 01/12/2009 2:33:18 PM PST by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: Big_Monkey

He does. Said it during one of the presidential debates. Giuliani slammed him for it.


47 posted on 01/12/2009 2:34:02 PM PST by NoKoolAidforMe (1-20-13--Change we can look forward to)
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To: mnehrling
Too bad for him there is that pesky little thing called the Constitution that says that all treaties are to be considered the high law of the land

Yep, that's sure enough going to come back to bite us in the ass under nobama. I can't believe anyone would think that UN treaties should supercede the Constitution.
48 posted on 01/12/2009 2:34:36 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: randomhero97
..UN treaties should supersede the Constitution..

In this case, no one is saying that UN treaties are superseding the Constitution just like no other written law supersedes the Constitution. Treaties just like laws, are tools. The Constitution is supreme law but does give the authority to create tools (such as treaties). The Constitution also gives the proper way these are ratified and how you get out of them (via legislative process.)

49 posted on 01/12/2009 2:36:58 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

Let’s be clear about the term “blowback::

What this term means for coy conservatives like Paul and even other lefty reactionaries is that when Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran engage in direct acts of violence, they are not really engaging in violence. These individual terrorists and genocidaires are mere cogs in the American imperial machine.

These TERRORISTS have no choice but to launch rockets, behead, suicide bomb and any other terrifying inhumane act they unleash. They have no choice— its ‘blowback.’

Well Ron Paul, I still have a choice.

You are anti semitic and a threat to the Republic. Until such so called Libertarians clue into the reality of US security, they really should not even be seen as authentic libertarians. Even Jefferson sent Marines to get these SOBs in 1802.

Pretending to have some appropriate limited view of American foreign policy is a cover for raw bigotry. Ron Paul thinks we deserve it.

I disagree.


50 posted on 01/12/2009 2:37:09 PM PST by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: mountainlion

The Lebanon barracks were bombed in 1983.


51 posted on 01/12/2009 2:37:28 PM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (QMC(SW) USN........ CG21 DD988 FFG34 PC6 ARS53)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
"He does. Said it during one of the presidential debates. Giuliani slammed him for it."

Wow. He is nuts.

52 posted on 01/12/2009 2:38:31 PM PST by Big_Monkey
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To: lonestar67

Its funny how they always mention negative blowback to us, not positive blowback of action or blowback for inaction. Blowback is not a one way street.


53 posted on 01/12/2009 2:39:30 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

I know. I didn’t direct my post at you. I was just making a broad statement that our elected politicians believe in the UN bureaucracy and not our Republic form of government.


54 posted on 01/12/2009 2:40:02 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: randomhero97

Cool, sorry, reacting to an all too often misstated charge...


55 posted on 01/12/2009 2:40:51 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Xenalyte
Damn it, Dr. Paul, don’t go pro-Pali on me.

Honestly, I don't think he has.

Saying "The weapons being used to kill so many Palestinians are American weapons, and American funds, essentially, are being used for this," is a no-brainer. Our government throws money at EVERY nation, so it's no surprise when that money is used to a destructive end.

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Paul also expressed his opposition to a House resolution that strongly supported Israel in its Gaza invasion. "I rise in opposition to this resolution, not because I am taking sides and picking who the bad guys are and who the good guys are."

George Washington farewell address:

So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld.

Nowhere do I see verification of the title of the article showing Paul says the US is 'liable' for the deaths in Gaza, and his opinion seems mighty close to that of the Founders.

Just more media bait for the Paul bashers.

56 posted on 01/12/2009 2:41:38 PM PST by MamaTexan (Regulating your way to Freedom is like trying to Spend your way to Prosperity)
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To: mnehrling

Ron Paul, spewing idiocy once again.


57 posted on 01/12/2009 2:43:15 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Westbrook

Great post.


58 posted on 01/12/2009 2:44:28 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (FREE BLAGO !!! LET HIM SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER !!!)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Ron Paul voted against recognizing Chanukka in a resolution claiming “the government has no business legitimizing a religion” . . . . . then later voted to recognize Ramadan.

Didn't know that. Those votes say a lot about Ron Paul.

59 posted on 01/12/2009 2:48:22 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: mnehrling

Just anpther reason why Ron Paul manages to marginalize himself out of existence. This guy agrees more with Louis Farrakahn than he does with any conservative that I know


60 posted on 01/12/2009 2:52:51 PM PST by the long march
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