Posted on 01/11/2009 5:58:42 PM PST by Coleus
And one other thing-— I don’t know about this particular pellet rifle, but some shoot at the same velocity as a .22LR - which has been used to kill many people (and to poach a whole bunch of deer) over the years.
The problem is - this is exactly the ammunition the anti’s like to use to take even more of our things and rights away.
What if it went between her ribs and into her heart? Wouldn’t kill her quicker than a punctured lung?
It would have to penetrate the intracostal muscle, the lung, and then the pericardium to injure the heart. I don’t think a pellet rifle could do that. The most powerful pellet rifles I’ve sold had 29 foot pounds of energy at the muzzle. Those were .25 caliber Beeman R-9s, very unusual guns. I doubt this guy had one. A .22 pellet has around 15 foot pounds at the muzzle. By contrast, a .22 CB Short has 32 foot pounds.
The pellets might weigh as little as 7 or 15 grains. The .22 Short bullet weighs 29 grains. Mostly these things can’t be expected to penetrate deep into a limb. The muscle between the ribs should have stopped the pellet. As I think about this, I wonder if the woman had a medical condition that was a factor in the accident. It could have entered the lung and lacerated the pulmonaray artery, but it seems almost impossible that it was a fatal injury without some other factor.
It would have to penetrate the intracostal muscle, the lung, and then the pericardium to injure the heart. I don’t think a pellet rifle could do that. The most powerful pellet rifles I’ve sold had 29 foot pounds of energy at the muzzle. Those were .25 caliber Beeman R-9s, very unusual guns. I doubt this guy had one. A .22 pellet has around 15 foot pounds at the muzzle. By contrast, a .22 CB Short has 32 foot pounds.
The pellets might weigh as little as 7 or 15 grains. The .22 Short bullet weighs 29 grains. Mostly these things can’t be expected to penetrate deep into a limb. The muscle between the ribs should have stopped the pellet. As I think about this, I wonder if the woman had a medical condition that was a factor in the accident. It could have entered the lung and lacerated the pulmonaray artery, but it seems almost impossible that it was a fatal injury without some other factor.
i was thinking something really vascular in the back.. like the kidney or lucky/unlucky angled back shot nicking aorta/vena cava or other major artery.
“It took two people to write that?”
They wrote it twice too!
Could be, I'm no doctor, but an aortal nick could have bled into the lungs, or the chest cavity could have filled up with blood.
not really.
That's why if you stab someone from the rear you start at your waist level and plunge forward and towards the midline. Your body will naturally bring the blade in from the side you're holding the knife and cut your aorta, vena cava or renal arteries. The bleeding may or may not be visible outside and is collecting in an area behind the peritoneum, so it is walled of for awhile and will not go into the chest or belly...for awhile. You're still bleeding to death and will die..... it's just not messy yet.
Human body is amazing. So, yeah you can get shot in the back and bleed to death. It could have nicked some other artery branching off the aorta. Either way, it's a very unlucky shot with a pellet gun.
I guess it was a slow-news day.
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