Oregon assisted suicide at record high

Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | 1/9/09 | John Iwasaki

[wagglebee]

Are there any clauses in the legislation that a patient needs to be deemed sane and able to make life altering decisions on their own?

These should provide some insight:

(Oregon) Assisted Suicide Laws May Overlook Depressed Patients

Death Drugs Cause Uproar in Oregon: Terminally Ill Denied Drugs for Life, But Can Opt for Suicide

Cal Thomas: Is Euthanasia Next After Oregon Promotes Assisted Suicide Over Treatment?

Oregon Offers to Pay to Kill, but Not to Treat Cancer Patient

Oregon Assisted Suicide Report: Deaths Increase, No Psychological Referrals

Oregon Patients Prescribed Lethal Drugs for "Fear" of Pain and Loss of Dignity

Oregon Homicide Exposes the Fallacy that Euthanasia Can be Controlled Says Fr. Pavone

[Petronius]

Just curious: Did you support the Iraq war? (Either one)

The early Christians were consistent about "thou shall not kill." Modern ones are far more selective.

[politicalmerc]

Isn’t it great that assisted suicide is legal in LIBERAL states?

[wagglebee]

NO.

[politicalmerc]

That way LIBERALS take advantage of it.

[GonzoII]

"Just curious: Did you support the Iraq war? (Either one)"

Yes.

"Kill" means murder.

A Just War means defense, the prohibition of which you will not find in the Bible.

[wagglebee]

The early Christians were consistent about "thou shall not kill."

A simple reading of you tagline illustrates the YOUR understanding of Christianity is beyond warped.

And she was mad with lust after lying with them whose flesh is as the flesh of asses: and whose issue as the issue of horses. (Ezechiel 23:30)

[betty boop]

I am not aware of ANY Protestant denomination that has historically condoned suicide nor am I aware of ANY denomination that would describe themselves as Evangelical that currently supports suicide.

Indeed.

What is suicide? It is the ultimate rejection of the divine gift of Life. To me, this is a rebuke of God second only to the rejection of the Holy Spirit, and is bound up in the Mystery of Iniquity. And it is culpable in a major way.

As such, it is utterly, categorically unacceptable to Christians, or to anyone who values Life.

Ultimately it is God alone Who judges such matters....

[betty boop]

The early Christians were consistent about "thou shall not kill."

And yet the Church has taken great pains to elaborate the doctrine of the just war. Things are not as simple as they evidently appear to Petronius.

[Petronius]

Funny, in your post #38 I see a whole bunch of quotes with the word "kill," not "murder."

"Kill" means whatever believers say it does.

[Petronius]

I was the one who said it evolves and adapts to its environment. When you don’t have the power to kill, you preach pacifism; when you do, it’s time for “Just War Theory.”

[MountainFlower]

Who sent the tumor? Who invented cancer?

All the sickness and disease you see or have or hear about it a result of the FIRST sin, of Adam and Eve in the garden. No second guessing there.

[GonzoII]

"Kill" means whatever believers say it does.

"Kill" in the context of the Bible means just what the Bible says it means, you can do some study.

[MountainFlower]

FYI, if Christianity were a cult it would have died out long ago. no CULT would last this long. considering the alternatives out there...I would rather run the risk, as you see it, on this spiritual belief system, than on any other. (I don’t see it as a risk. I know my beliefs are real and tangible. I have seen God working in my life and those around me, in wonderous ways. buddha, any ‘person’ believing themselves to be a ‘god’, mohammed, the mormon dude - none of them could possible do what God has done.) out of curiosity, what is your religious persuasion?

[ShandaLear]

That the Bible doesn’t speak directly on a specific issue isn’t an argument either for or against it. It is the entirity of its teachings and Christian tradition/understanding of them, that speaks to issues like suicide, abortion, homosexuality, etc. There is clearly a prohibition against suidice in both Judahism and Christianity that cannot be denied.

If a person wants to kill themselves for any reason, they will find a way a do it. The issue I have with this is when it becomes legal or even required for others to aid and abet them.

In the animal world, the weak are generally killed off for various reasons by other animals and their own kind. What elevates human beings from animals is the ability to rise above our animal nature and show actual mercy and compassion to each other. To assist in killing the weak amoung us is not compassion, especially when there are other resources at our disposal to address their suffering.

[MountainFlower]

I was the one who said it evolves and adapts to its environment. When you don’t have the power to kill, you preach pacifism; when you do, it’s time for “Just War Theory.”

I find it interesting that this thread has moved from an suicide issue to a war related issue! I don't want to assume, but, considering your stances, where do you stand on abortion?

[betty boop]

When you don’t have the power to kill, you preach pacifism; when you do, it’s time for “Just War Theory.”

My word, but you are a deeply cynical man, Petronius. And not one of very deep understanding, I imagine.

Good luck to you.

[stubernx98]

Yeah, there was a front page picture in the Oregonian of the newly elected “Gay” Mayor of Portland, saying (below the fold) “there are no gay pot holes, no straight pot holes just pot holes”. Well, rain & snow wreck the streets.

[little jeremiah]

And the culture death marches on with grotesqe Orwellian slogans.

[little jeremiah]

The rural counties are much more conservative. The cities like Portland, Eugene and Ashland are filthy with extreme leftists.