Posted on 01/07/2009 2:10:16 PM PST by LuxMaker
Yep.
“I’m sorry...could you please post that video?”
It’s already posted. That’s what this thread is about. If the victim had been you, I would be no less candid. And you would expect me to have the mental capacity to see for myself what the video clearly demonstates occured. If not, then you have issues, that are by all accounts, unresolvable by me, or anyone else for that matter, including yourself.
Watched the video...with open eyes...
The police officer is either psycho or a a fool.
Neither should have a gun, much less a badge...
“I think you can leave the have been out, and hope to god that anyone that says crap like that is not allowed to carry a weapon!!”
Agreed. These are people who give conservatives a bad name.
“Just see my earlier replies to humorless Miss Grundies.”
Don’t even try to pass this off as humour. You are as sick as the diease you claim to cure. You are an imposter here on FR. Posing as conservative when you are as lawless as those on Kos or DU.
This institution failed (BART) So do you, according to your views as stated would mind this victim's buddies hunting down this officer and doing a “little justice” to him, his fellow officers involved and their families.
Just for good measure, you know, teach them a lesson
The perp was already under control. What we witnessed was nothing less than cold blooded execution
“Things were very tense before the shooting, and I would have to say the onlookers were menacing.”
So shoot the one guy on the ground and in handcuffs?
Riiiiiight!!
Of course, that’s what I said! (and yes, that was sarcasm). And, btw, the guy apparently was NOT handcuffed at the time he was shot. I don’t think this matters, but in the interest of understanding exactly what happened, we should stick to the facts.
“.... the guy apparently was NOT handcuffed at the time he was shot”
Not according to this vid.
http://www.ktvu.com/video/18426994/index.html
There will be an investigation and hopefully this will be settled....
Which of course is all I have been advocating (and taking some flak for).
Proverbs 10:14, “Wise men lay up knowledge: but the mouth of the foolish is near destruction.”
“would mind this victim’s buddies hunting down this officer and doing a “little justice” to him, his fellow officers involved and their families.”
Are you really so thick that you don’t see the arrant stupidity of that argument?
“The perp was already under control. What we witnessed was nothing less than cold blooded execution”
Well, your eyes must be as sharp as your wits are dull, because I didn’t clearly see the shooting, on any of the three films.
“Don’t even try to pass this off as humour.”
Humour? What are you, a limey poofter? There was humor in it. Not surprised you missed it.
“You are as sick as the diease you claim to cure.”
Sick? Disease? What kind of deranged babble is that? We have a severe problem with organized criminal enterprises—shdow governments, actually—and with the failure of the institutions that are supposed to correct these problems.
“You are an imposter here on FR. Posing as conservative when you are as lawless as those on Kos or DU.”
This is exactly what I was talking about when I spoke of the left turning “vigilante” into a dirty word. Leftist policies have led us into an untenable position, and leftists in government only exacerbate the problems. Then moral cretins like you refer to the notion of the people taking action to put the situation right as “sick.” (Remember the people, from the Preamble to the Constitution? We the People? That includes me and people who agree with me.)
Being a person who spells “humor” as “humour” you may be unfamiliar with the principles upon which this country was founded. One of them is, “...whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”
They weren’t talking about giving people a “time out.” They were talking about firing rifles and cannon at them, and cutting them with swords, until they were no longer able to interfere with our rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of property.
These criminal gangs are nothing but insurrectionists, establishing shadow governments that operate more effectively than the official institutions in controlling and taxing the people they rule. Our “government,” on the other hand, proclaims itself ineffective to correct the situation. 42 executions in all of 2007 speaks for itself.
And self-rightous pantywaists like yourself want to characterize calls to restore order as “sick.”
Turning a blind eye to the depredations of these gangs is “moderate,” I suppose, but advocating their destruction is “diseased.”
Wudda maroon.
Thanks!!
(I guess?...)
Maybe in your simpleton mind but from my view, you look like a guy wearing makeup and a whig that belongs in a circus.
Not very imaginative are you. This would sxplain your inability to grasp even the simplest of contemporary concepts.
To me, you look like a knuckle dragging cro-magnon beating his women with a bone club while dragging her from the cave by her hair for overcooking your vulture eggs. Or was it because she slept with your brother. I always forget which.
It’s in part, a response to those who do not want to review the facts of the video while expounding that they know what they need to know. Arguing with these guys is counterproductive.
“Arguing with these guys is counterproductive.”
Maybe but some posts are not merely a disagreement of facts, which I can understand and respect. But there are some that are so outrageous I cannot let slip by and go uncontested.
Silence = Consent.
Do I think I changed anyone’s minds? No, at leasd not the fanatics.
Well, I see you *are* so thick that you don’t see the arrant stupidity of your argument, and so vindictive and childish that you wish to engage in a flame war. I don’t have too much time for that sort of thing, so I’m going to disregard most of your drivel. For the benefit of anyone who might be looking on and imagining that you have a rational point, I’m going to address a couple of the stupider of your stupid arguments, then give you the last word and forget you even exist.
“Oh you mean only YOU get to play sheriff and decide who can be gunned down and whose house we burn down.”
No, it will require many large groups of people with properly developed consciences, who are capable of discerning right from wrong. Don’t worry; you won’t be called upon.
“Who are mostly behind bars or padded cells. Or soon will be.”
Well, that’s one way the Soviet Union dealt with dissidents. I’m sure you’d be quite comfortable with that.
“neither are keyboard commandos like you”
This keyboard commando spent a total of 25 years in uniform, active and reserve, and actually has the intelligence to understand what the Founding Fathers meant. There is nothing in any of the founding documents that speaks against anything I’ve proposed here. No, your argument is that of the gun grabbers, the Nancy Pelosis, the Barney Franks, the Dingy Harry Reids of the world, who hold desperately to the notion that the people must be denied the means and the right to self protection.
“For mobs are a lawless force responsible to no one but themselves and are the step into total anarchy.”
Glib. Shallow, puerile, and irrelevant, but glib. Where a healthy mind sees organizations of responsible men taking necessary action, a mind as contaminated with the insanity of the left as yours sees “mobs.” Actually, it seems probable that you really are incapable of seeing the difference.
“No, it was idiots like yourself who turned vigilantism into a dirty word after they took the law into their own hands and killed innocent people.”
Then the handsome prince climbed the tower…Oh, I’m sorry, I thought we were doing fairy tales. You seem to have bought completely into the fictional morality plays the media has been feeding us for decades, at any rate.
If you are really such an idiot that you will watch the country go down in flames rather than exercise the power that inheres in the people, then I must quote Samuel Adams: “If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
Let's take a look at the situation shall we?
Our young perp was involved in a major fight on the train. While the cops are are restraining our young friends he IS putting up a struggle. How do I know this? simple, cops, and there were 2 on him at one time, he was no in hand cuffs and you I would not pull a taser if the perp was obeying my damn instructions.
That being said, Yes it is a tragedy they one is dead and another one is screwed beyond belief. I will always maintain that perps don't gets lased if the obey instructions of the officers at the scene.
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