Posted on 01/07/2009 2:10:16 PM PST by LuxMaker
constant struggle? i didn’t see a ‘constant’ struggle - i saw a sitting man, with his hands up, dragged to a face down position - we can be sure they were frisked prior to being told to sit down
What happened? Did their balls drop off?
When the media says a gangbanger got shot on BART today nobody panics because it is all part of the plan. When they say John Travolta’s kid died, why then, everybody loses their minds!
When the media says a gangbanger got shot today on the BART nobody panics because it is all part of the plan. When they say John Travolta's kid died, why then, everybody loses their minds!
BART is the police state transport system. BART is losing millions every year. The police state is bankrupt. Their math does not add up and they know it.
Instead they will tax the $hit out of your cars and force you into their public employee union boxcars bound for whatever area of the welfare plantation. They will also try to give a monopoly on gun ownership to their police state public employee unions.
The case will be tried in their police state courts, prosecuted by their police state prosecutor, absolving their police state employee who is represented by their police state defense attorney.
Again, do the math... If all of those private citizens were armed, do you think this would have happened???
see #123...
Thanks for posting that. A couple of things. At the beginning of the video a guy in a brown/gray jacket has something in his hand. Maybe a cell phone, but I could easily mistake it for a gun. Things were very tense before the shooting, and I would have to say the onlookers were menacing.
Second, this article says the guy was shot in the back (I thought earlier I read he was shot in the head). THAT makes more sense that the cop thought he had his taser but instead pulled out his gun. It was still a terrible mistake to make.
Third, I still cannot tell what precipitated this, why did the cop think he needed to taser the guy? I will say that, watching that video there is not enough money in the world to pay me to deal with those kind of thugs day in and day out. I’m surprised we find ANY good cops.
Since obviously you were there, will you please explain what really happened?
So, you believe that there is no point in investigating? We just watch a couple of grainy videos and take your word for it?
The only glint of steel they would have seen in this case would have been from the handcuffs that the shootee had attached to his wrists behind his back.
Myself, I don’t need the police or BART. I am a do it yourselfer... I can drive a car just fine...
I am tired of the public employee largesse represented here, it is a major contributing factor to what happened.
Nobody seems to see this.
What does you being able to drive a car have to do with whether or not this guy was executed or accidentally shot? I don’t care about your feelings about the government, I want to know if this is a bad cop or a tragic mistake.
BART is a welfare plantation transport system. The ever increasing public debt...
More unions, more public employees. Less freedom, less guns.
Tax the hell out of cars. Force them into the police state trains... Great idea. Never mind BART is losing millions, the state is bankrupt and the PERS (public employee retirement system) is also going broke...
Nope, pass more gun laws, shoot a few more miscreants with poorly trained cops on the public payroll and who aren’t needed to begin with, increase the union vote, take guns away from citizens.
Frankly, I don’t care. It all swirls around government largesse and I’m sick of it...
LOL well, there you go. Thanks for posting, at least everyone now knows you don’t have a clue what happened, and you don’t care!
I know exactly what happened and I don’t need to care to see it.
This all the result of more and more government and it began long before that man ever got on the police state train.
“So, you believe that there is no point in investigating? We just watch a couple of grainy videos and take your word for it?”
No need for sarcasm. Grainy or not, the vid shows what occured. No hiding, no shuckin and jivin, no concealing of the facts. Of course there must be a grand jury investigation. Will there be?
There was a time when man considered a dog his best friend. Today, a cam is his best friend.
“The case will be tried in their police state courts, prosecuted by their police state prosecutor, absolving their police state employee who is represented by their police state defense attorney.”
That’s my interpretation based on previous similar well publicized cases.
I don’t know what our boiling point is. I can only hope we have one. Since if we don’t, we are all, at random, subject to the same kind of treatment anytime anywhere.
Just the other night I was at my local favorite Mexican restaurant having dinner and a marguerita with the wife. When people drink margueritas they tend to get a little loud, laugh a lot, and have a little fun. Oddly some of the local church crowd will come in after evening service and bring the kids.
Well this particular night, apparently there was a guy who was a little boistrous using some bad language. Not so boistorous that we could here him though in the same room. But loud enough the church crowd sitting next to his table heard him. They called the police.
I’m standing outside in the cold smoking when they arrive. I thought they were coming in to have dinner. One of them in a sarcastic tone says to me: “if I had to go outside in the cold to smoke I would quit.” I cringed, but had enough wits to keep my mouth shut.
They go on into the restaurant. They spoke briefly to the guy the church crowd had called about. Apparently they determined they had no just cause to arrest the guy at the time. Since he was not drunk and certainly not disorderly. Think about it.
I’m still outside finishing my smoke when they exit. I overhear one of them say: “if I catch that SOB outside, I’m taking him down!”
This is where we are, and these are the guys we pay to “protect and serve us.”
The video doesn’t show exactly what occurred. This is why we investigate, get witness statements and have trials. It does appear that the policeman shot the guy for no reason. However, I find it very unlikely that he just thought, “Hmmm...this guy oughta be dead.” and shot him in front of so many witnesses. So, logic leads me to think something else happened. If you choose not to use logic, but instead use what seems to be your dislike of authority, that’s fine. But don’t expect everyone else to agree with you.
Oh my gosh, that policeman hurt your feelings! Well then, of course, we should fire them all!!
“If you choose not to use logic, but instead use what seems to be your dislike of authority, that’s fine. But don’t expect everyone else to agree with you.”
Your argument is that the vid doesn’t show what actually occured. That’s perverted logic.
I am the authority.
Oh my, am I supposed to bow down to you now? LOL
Well, clearly your video was much clearer than mine and in included audio of what was being said by the police AND it included little cartoon bubbles over the cop’s head so we could know what he was thinking! I’m sorry...could you please post that video?
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