Posted on 01/04/2009 10:28:36 PM PST by Steelfish
Franken would win easily. I think you've overestimated the intelligence of Minnesotan voters.
But do Americans really want this kind of Janus-faced liberalism? Or are they just suffering from a prolonged lack of leadership and vision such that even a styrofoam cutout like Barack Obama could get elected by simply sounding like a true leader? That the words were empty of serious content seemed to matter not at all to a public weary of war and yet spoiled by unparalleled abundance. For their part, the Democrats succeeded by exploiting the former and by denying the latter.
And for their part, the Republicans failed by promoting as their standard-bearer a candidate who accepted all the important premises of the opposition. Having made a career of undercutting his own party's base at nearly every turn, he continued to do so until naked political calculus led to his selection of a conservative running mate - a great choice, but one made more of necessity than conviction.
Anyway, here we are, in the wilderness. Where we will be for a while. But "America" as you and I recall it is not yet dead. It's just gone underground, waiting for a leader and a cause, and for the right moment to reemerge. America feels the same way to me now as it did back in January 1977: the argument was over - the Left had won and controlled everything. A mere four years later, it felt very, very different. And much, much better.
Hope is not just for Democrats.
MN is a joke / bump for later........
Typical Republican move. Why any Republican ever puts even a shred of trust in these cheating, thieving, traitorous Democrats is beyond me. They should just expect that from the lowest city council Democrat flunky all the way to the top dog of that rotten party that they will subvert any rule of law involved and they should protect themselves. It's now election by theft nationwide for these thugs.
You're absolutely right, except "bolloxed" doesn't even come close, lol!
The question is, will they demand a run-off?
Ironic (or intentional?) there's all this yakking about Blago's corruption "tainting" his nominee Burress (sic) and not having a "special election" for the Illinois Senate seat, when that's only for two years of Obama's first term (right?)...like Franken isn't "tainted" by his association with these mind-reading election-board people, double-counting judges and etc...
Freepers, contact your Senators and make sure they know this too...Franken can not be allowed to be seated until this election undergoes better/outside scrutiny...
They're the "august body", a group of only 100...do they really want Franken to be one of their 100, given the exceptional circumstances??? Not to mention his "track record"...ugh! You'd think even the Democrats would find him a complete embarrassment?!
Minnesota will get what it deserves. The ironic thing to me is that so many, including here on FR, love to deride Florida for the 2000 election fraud perpetrated by the dems, yet New Jersey elects the corrupt, New York elects miss Carpetbagger, Minnesota elects jokers and wrestlers, and Mass elects the likes of Eddie Kennedy and John-Vietnam-Kerry!
Yet “Floriduh” is a “dumb” state. FReeper please.
Funny you use the term "dead." And I don't menan ha-ha funny. The previous America you mention may not ever return as it may be too late. And if some semblence of sanity returns it will only be because of a catastrophic event like a MAJOR terrorist attack. And probably not even then.
As much as it may seem at this miserable moment that the Old America is pushing up daisies, has shuffled off this mortal coil, has joined the bleedin’ choir invisible, or is pinin’ for the fjords, I think it still lives and breathes. Among other places, it lives right here on this page.
Agreed. But you forgot California with its two left-wignuts senators.
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Conservatives and only SOME republicans are causing a little uproar, but everyone else, including my lib friends are saying “hey what can we do now...he won!”
Not in my eyes, he didn’t win...he STOLE!
“and gee, who is going to win that fight, the feminized leftist ‘male’? i don’t think so...”
one shouldn’t underestimate these adolescent, psychotic punks dressed in adult clothing, playing adult games. they’re intent on getting power and just itching for anyone to challenge them; the bottom line is that they have their comrades at their back who are ready to assist them
by subverting whatever laws are necessary.
dangerous times dominated by dangerous leftist scu&bags.
IMHO
This is just so WRONG!
“But I smell nothing but another GOP rollover here. Pathetic.”
When the other side is in charge of counting all you have left is to sue.
After 2000 Florida and 2004 Ohio, the Dems decided to take scty of state positions seriously. Soros funded campaigns for these races. They installed a Dem-Rat MoveOn.org type person in the position in Minnesota that is in charge of this recount.
That’s the real story here - the Dems took the issue seriously enough to have their guy in there.
Yup. Stalin was right. Its not the votes that counts, its who counts who cotes.
Please - FREAK OUT on this. Write letters to the editor. Explain how it stinks to high heaven. repeat after me: Franken, selected not elected.
Whatever it takes so people are made aware of this travesty. No one will get outraged if you dont speak out on it.
Coleman is a semi-milquetoast who had to be dragged kicking and screaming by his constituents to fight against the Open Borders debacle that was going on during the summer of ‘06.
Happy New Year!
Don’t believe the the old lie that “Minnesota is a clean politics state”. That canard has been advanced for at least 50 years in order to cover up shady dealings by the Democrats here in the northland.
Since the Dems own the news media both in the Twin Cities and nationally, it’s hard to get out the truth about the DFL (Democrat Farm Labor) party here.
Probably the most infamous case of dirty tricks happened in the 1960’s, when after Orville Freeman left the Governor’s office to become Kennedy’s Sec. of Agriculture, the following election saw Elmer L. Anderson, a somewhat liberal Republican businessman elected to the office. He was a fairly good governor. When he came up for re-election, the DFL led by Hubert Humphrey decided that they wanted the office back again. This happened during the massive construction of the interstate highway program. So, about one month before the election, when Gov. Anderson opened up Highway 35 from the Twin Cities to Duluth in a ribbon-cutting ceremony, the DFL went into combat. With the aid of the Minneapolis Star & Tribune, and WCCO they began to hammer Anderson for some sort of so-called shoddy negligence in the construction of the highway so Anderson could speed up the process to open up the Highway in time for this publicity. The newspaper and TV news folks kept repeating this lie which was entirely concocted as a “scandal”. Of course, it turned out to be a false accusation.
The purpose, of course, was to elect the DFL candidate, who was a rather stupid, chronically drunk, alcoholic named Karl Rolvaag. Their insidious plan worked, and Rolvaag won by less than 100 votes (and I would not put it past them to have padded his numbers in the Minneapolis precincts). Believe me, Al Franken is not the first DFL candidate to win who has caused lots of embarrassment to our state.
It’s easy to say a state is clean, if you are only looking at whether or not the GOP is corrupt. Indeed, in Minnesota we have had very few scandals of any sort in the GOP, but the DFL’s scandals have been plenty, but have been almost universally covered up. Making up phony scandals and damaging people’s reputations is not my idea of clean politics.
Folks. Take it from me. I’ve seen lots of scandal in MN politics and it’s mostly all on the Democrats side!
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